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lol leading with Nintendo's best foot forward. Nintendo's most successful home console in history did not have Mario in the launch window. It had Zelda and a new IP a new IP WiiSports and whether your like me who gives more credit to the other launch titles and Nintendo's loyal user base or whether you credit WiiSports with Wii's success. Either way you have to acknowledge Mario did shit to make Wii successful during its launch window and with Galaxy selling under ten mill it doesn't appear it had much to do with Wii's over all success. Mario Kart and 2D Mario did not make the Wii a success.

Now what everyone is suggesting is Nintendo use Mario to launch Tue platform despite Nintendo's two most successful platforms launched without a new Mario game in the launch window.

DS launched with a port and Wii did not have Mario. Mario did little to help N64 and less to help GameCube. Nintendo had less success on GBA a console swimming with Mario then DS a console with far less Mario. Given the life cycle.

So I ask you since Mario has not launched a successful platform since the 90's early 90's why does anyone think Nintendo needs Mario at launch.

I'll put it another way if Mario was a day one launch title lets say Nintendo led Wii with Mario bundling it with Wii instead of WiiSports. Would WiiSports have become big? Would the Wii's hardware sell any better? No it wouldn't the Wii was sold out everywhere for its first year and that was without Mario.

So why kill off new IP and over shadow the next potential WiiSports or Mario or Pokemon by launching a Mario title. This is basic knowledge in the industry. Ubisoft gave a great reason new hardware is the best time to launch new IP saving the established IP for a later date. In fact Epic to has given a lot of credit to 360 being a new platform to Gears success. Heck many of the biggest video game IP are new IP from this past generation.

I am not suggesting Nintendo leave Mario out of the launch year. I am suggesting Nintendo launch Mario in 6+ months from consoles release.

Mario is a sure thing but Nintendo knows that Mario is not enough to succeed. Miyamoto and Nintendo have said several times they need another major game.

I am getting a little screwed up. But I find it funny that Nintendo's strongest consoles did not have Mario at launch. The last two consoles to have Mario at launch (New) GameCube and N64 both failed to compete. Nintendo was not successful using Mario as their flagship title.

What good could Mario have done at Wii's launch? Tell me one positive that could have come from it at launch? It could not have increased sales of hardware! It would have over shadowed WiiSports, Zelda, Red Steel and every other launch window title.

Mario would have done tons of damage and hurt Wii's launch in a big way.

Use logic please when you only have four million hardware units to sell during the holiday season what good does a 20+ million title do? What? It could only anger consumers who can't play it because the hardware is not available. The first six months see at best what 15-million units what benefit does a 20+ million seller do? If their are two first party 4-8 million sellers a WiiSports style bundled game. A 1- million + Pikmin title another Miyamoto new IP capable of selling 20+ million but no worse.then a million. A new Retro IP another multimillionaire seller. A Sonic game another multimillion selling title. CoD a huge seller capable of 8-10 million copies on a solid platform. All of THQ and UbiSofts major titles. EA's big games Sega's...etc...etc...

What benefit does Mario do with that kind of line up? Their won't even be enough hardware to meet 2D Mario's potential. Then Mario 3D is in fact barely stronger then DK's potential.



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