What is a casual game?

[Jay520]

Stinky said:

Jay520 said:

Stinky said:

There aren't many games that could garner the player commitment, game mechanics study and competitiveness of a game like Ms Pac-Man, let alone the other mountain of coin-op games. Yet these games which still recieve player commitment 30 years later are to be considered casual, where a one/two playthrough game with a thick manual is to be considered hardcore?

Just because it is more casual doesn't mean it's not more hardcore at the same time.

That makes no sense. To me the casual/hardcore demarcation is more one of subjective snoberry than of any objective measure.

Sure, it's subjective (both the definition of 'casual' and its existence). If there were an objective measure then there would be no need for this thread or for people to discuss their ideas.