Rath said:
Viper1 said:
Rath said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Personally, I think Ron Paul would beat Obama if Ron Paul were the Republican nominee. Sadly, outside of the states where the GOP has a libertarian streak (NH, ME, NV, SD...) Ron Paul likely won't/cannot do well and because of that, he won't win the GOP nomination.
Here is a new poll out of Iowa by the Des Moines Register. It shows Ron Paul doing best against Obama in IA, a swing state.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120219/NEWS09/302190047/Iowa-Poll-Obama-trails-trio-from-GOP
Iowa: Paul vs. Obama Des Moines Register Obama 42, Paul 49 Paul +7
Iowa: Santorum vs. Obama Des Moines Register Santorum 48, Obama 44 Santorum +4
Iowa: Romney vs. Obama Des Moines Register Obama 44, Romney 46 Romney +2
Iowa: Gingrich vs. Obama Des Moines Register Obama 51, Gingrich 37 Obama +14
Remember, Iowa went 54% for Obama (D) and 44% for McCain (R) in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Iowa,_2008 |
There is no way Paul can sway people whose opinions are liberal or moderate fiscally. He's extremely fiscally conservative.
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He already has to some degree. Look at how many democrats co-signed his audit the fed bills. His monetary policy has made a lot of people that are normally fiscal moderates to look deeper into the monetary aspects, not just general finances.
Hell, look at his college age following. That demographic has historically been very fiscally moderate yet they are the biggest demographic for end the fed support.
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College age generally has large numbers of people towards the ends of the social and fiscal policy spectrums. Young people have strong opinions that moderate with age.
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While i agree here. I do think he could convince quite a few people who a fiscal moderates, if only because there hasn't been anything resembling a fiscal moderate in the US in a LONG time.
I think the window has closed on Paul, but if he were 20 years younger... i wouldn't be surprised if he would of got elected in one of the next 2 elections.
It's interesting in that I think in the next couple years you'll see Ron Paul rush to become a "King Maker" on the libretarian stage... and try and pass on the reigns to someoen else, probably his son, but there are always others in the Libretarian part.
The thing about Ron Paul that you probably don't get in New Zealand is there are a lot of people who support... well Ron Paul. Not so much Libretarians in general. He just has some kind of weird force of will that gets people behind him, and without him, there is like 1/4th the support.
It was the Same with Ralph Nader and the green party. Without Ralph, they're jokes, even though policy wise they're the same.
Why Ron Paul holds this kind of Charisma... I can't say honestly, I like the guy, but he's far from what I'd consider charismatic, i mean, no offense meant to him, but if i'm not looking at the TV when i hear him speak, i think it's an old woman talking.
