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Shinobi-san said:
enditall727 said:
Shinobi-san said:
enditall727 said:
Shinobi-san said:
enditall727 said:
Shinobi-san said:
Hmmm i dont think an upgraded PS3 will do the trick, which is pretty much what you suggesting

no, i think PS4 having a low price from the start will mainly do the trick ;)


That might have worked to an extent on the ps3 but the ps4 doesnt have the same things going for it.


??

what do you mean "PS4 doesnt have the same things going for it"??

ok, tell me exactly what PS3 had going for it back when it launched in

do you remember how bad Sony was getting hammered by the media because of the PS3?

what exactly do you mean by the bolded though?


well quite simply it had the success of the ps2 going for it...ps2(and in essence the sony playstation brand) had complete dominance over the console space. Naturally, the majority of those people wanted to upgrade to ps3.

This time around the ps4 and the sony playstation brand does not have that same following, or brand power.

this is debateable

i can easily say that Nintendo didn't have anything going for it coming off of last gen and look what happened

so the same can be said about Nintendo coming off of last gen AND the gen before that ;)

I dont see how its debateable? After the ps2 era sony had everything to lose.

What is debatable would be the extent to which having a huge install base on your prev gen console, and having an amazingly strong brand, effect your next gen console release.

Surely we can agree that sony would rather be in the position they were in after the strong performance of the ps2...than they are now with the ps3. Not saying ps3 is doing bad...but its not doing as well as the ps2 and the brand "playstation" as well as "Sony" as a whole has lost some of its selling power over these last 4 - 5 years.

yea and after the Super Nintendo era, Nintendo had everything to lose. Now look at where Nintendo is today ;) <-- THIS is why it's debateable

Surely we can agree that sony would rather be in the position they were in after the strong performance of the ps2...than they are now with the ps3.

yes, i agree

and I'm sure Nintendo said the same thing about the SNES going into the Wii this gen after the Gamecube last gen..

Not saying ps3 is doing bad...but its not doing as well as the ps2 and the brand "playstation" as well as "Sony" as a whole has lost some of its selling power over these last 4 - 5 years

The PlayStation brand can simply be re-strengthened next gen ;)