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Viper1 said:
sethnintendo said:


Basically, they want us to leave them alone right and not have any bases over there.  I don't even really see the point of bases on land anyways when we have the aircraft carrier fleet that we have.  Putting one or two carrier fleets in the region is enough power to stop most countries in their tracks.

The question is will they stop their Anti-American hate if we actually did pull out of those countries or would they just continue to chant death to America.  My guess is that they would continue the chant but I don't see any point in land bases over there myself. 

How would most Americans like Saudi Arabia or any other Muslim nation to have a base inside the USA?  Probably wouldn't like it too much. 

The bases are only a part of it so just removing tropps and bases won't be enough to completely remove their frustrations.

The 2 other major factors are our killing of innocent civillians with no consequences and our interference with their national politics.
We kill their children with no legal repercusions and overthrow their governemnt sto install dictoars favorable to us (which fail).

Who wouldn't be pissed to no end?  The way to get them to stop the hate is to change policy. 


The saddest thing is, we do not have an enemy we did not help create.  untilw e realize that at the federal level, we're doomed to create new enemies no matter what we do to the ones we already have.

Pretty good points there especially about overthrowing governments (help installing or protecting the power of favorable dictators).  I can think of a few countries where we messed that one up.  Iran, El Salvador, Pakistan, Panama, etc....  (just doing a quick Google search will bring some pages up (pages might be a little amateurish but most deal with the basic facts, http://www.military-veterans-for-justice.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10&Itemid=13 )

Our foreign policy has been a very sore spot especially the post WW2 - present.  After WW2 it seems that this country just went hell bent on setting up the worse foreign policy procedures ever.  We must have learned something from the Nazis.. Like how to make ourselves look like dicks on an international stage.