Greece 'can't take anymore cuts' and Eurozone States 'want Greece out'

[Cassiel]

MrBubbles said:

Cassiel said:

Michael-5 where are you reading all this nonsense?The retiring age over here is 65 and it always was like that.Lazy bums?Guess you never read my post.People here work way more than poeple in any other developed country.And also get paid way less and overtime stays unpaid.Now they are lowering wages ever more too.And prices are higher than the rest too (the highest in Europe at least).But ok it's always EASY talking about things you DON'T know, cause you don't live here and really never cared to learn cause it doesn't affect you (for the meantime).

Currently the average age of retirement in Greece is 61, though it is not uncommon for public sector workers to retire in their 50s.

Under the planned changes, the retirement age, which is currently 65 years for men and 60 years for women, will be linked to average life expectancy.

 

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Here are all the retirement ages pre/post-1998. Getting a pension in your 50s applies only to some special categories (mothers with underaged childrens for example) and those aren't full pensions at all.

http://www.glk.gr/syntaxeis/syntaxiodothsh/proypo9eseis/dhmosioi_ypallhloi.htm#4

radishhead said:
I'm well aware that it's not necessarily true, but over here the Greeks do have a reputation for being lazy and unwilling to work - I imagine that would make countries less likely to want to bail them out.

I have no idea where all the money went anyway- I didn't even think that most Greek people lived in air conditioned homes, let alone a quality of life to rival Western Europe

Yes this 'reputation' usually applied to the public sector over here, and in some cases it was true, because they 'promised' positions to their voters, leading to excess 'workers' in the public sector.All of us -not- working for the public sector uses to say that too.But you know what, it's not entirely true.At least not at the two places that had to do with the public sector where I had the chance to work for some months as part of some programs i nthe past.They were working alright.So i guess it's not that true in the end.But it depends on where you work at too of course.In any case people don't lie around even if they want too.Or else they won't have the means to survive.Before joining the euro,things were way better.The Drachmas kept getting devalued,but right now it's like it's been devalued 10fold since then!And they keep raising prices,slashing wages,closing businesses,taking our money through ridiculous taxes e.t.c..I don't really think this thing will keep going for much longer.I mean what more is there to lose?I surprised people down there haven't goten in there and wasted them yet to take back our nation.Whatever is going to happen will probably happen before the year ends anyway...