Look, it's just my opinion. M.U.G.E.N. actually played it and he says it's good. I appreciate that because it's hands on, then again he loves everything Sony releases so it's hard to take it completely seriously.
what a load of bullshit..I would appreciate if you don't say stupid crap like that please. and did you just compare mario kart to TM? 0_o wtf man..you sure you played the game before? They are NOTHING alike.
and just so I'm clear and since cuz of stupid arguments like these the sony section is deserted on this forum..you are more than welcome to check over at a place like GAF on their impressions on the game. You will find hundreds of opinions there. No one gives a shit about graphics on this game as long as it performs well and it does that amazingly well.
You sure you've played Mario Kart? Because the arena mode in Mario Kart is essentially a Twisted Metal junior. Don't get your panties in a knot just because it's a viable comparison.
Also, the original reviewer guy did make a pretty decent point. If take a game that was good in the Ps1 days, and essentially just give it a graphical overhaul, then you do have every right to say to say that it's outdated. Why? Because they can be. Why isn't this the case with Mario Kart? Because the controlls are great by todays standard.
Now, I haven't played a Twisted Metal game since 2, and I don't think I am going to play this one, but if the gameplay was mostly unchanged then points should be removed because of that. It was a clunky game back in the day, but it fit the time. Now? Not so much.
you said this as if EVERYBODY claimed that Twisted Metal ps3 was outdated
isn't this guy the only person that had slick sh!t to say about Twisted Metal? hince why Jaffe replied to his comments
and you do know that there was Twisted Metal Black on ps2 right? so why act as if the last twisted metal before the ps3 was only released on the ps1?
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You clearly didn't understand my post. I never said that Twisted Metal Ps3 was outdated, nor did I state that everyone has been saying it is. I said that if it hadn't evolved at all, then it would have been outdated. Two very different things.
And I really can't base my own views of Black, since I, like everyone else, did not play that game. That is why I based it on the Ps1 game.
no, i think i understood it clearly
you said --> Also, the original reviewer guy did make a pretty decent point. If take a game that was good in the Ps1 days, and essentially just give it a graphical overhaul, then you do have every right to say to say that it's outdated.
^^you were basically implying here that Twisted Metal IS IN FACT outdated because that specific ps1 game that he was talking about WAS Twisted Metal
Now you are truely showing that you did not understand what I said. I stated he had a point, the point is valid, I didn't state that it was right in terms of Twisted Metal. You are the one reading between the lines.
Why? Because they can be. Why isn't this the case with Mario Kart? Because the controlls are great by todays standard.
^^ here you are implying that UNLIKE Twisted Metal, Mario Kart has in fact evolved gameplay wise
you were trying to say that Mario Kart obviously did something right because nobody criticised it for being outdated like THEY(this 1 specific guy) did with Twisted even though Mario Karts gameplay has basically been the same for years(like this guy tried to claim for Twisted)
Again, I am not implying that the Twisted Metal controlls are bad, just that the Mario Kart controlls are great by todays standard, which they actually are. I never stated that Twisted Metal was outdated, I don't actually know, but I was countering all the people saying "But Mario Kart hasn't changed much, and everyone loves that!" Some controlls can work in todays gaming, others do not. That is a simple truth.
and i should know because i play them all
that reviewer had an agenda
Jaffe was justified in my book..
Added stuff in yo quote.
Again, I am not implying that the Twisted Metal controlls are bad, just that the Mario Kart controlls are great by todays standard, which they actually are.
yea and they have been the same for years like all these other game
and i didnt say that you implied that Twisted's "controls" are bad, im talking about the gameplay being outdated
who the hell would get mad about the controls of a game being the same LOL
i cant imaginge somebody complaining saying "the button A has been used as the jump button for years now, THESE CONTROLS ARE OUTDATED! " LOL
Some controlls can work in todays gaming, others do not. That is a simple truth.
give me an example
I just want to focus on those two points:
Just because the gameplay for certain games have been mostly unchanged, doesn't have to mean that they are outdated. Again, Mario Kart, those controlls work just as well now as they did back then. Twisted Metal 2's controlls? Those would be horrible by todays standards, because they are extremely clunky. There is a difference between being around for a long time and being outdated.
Example of controlls that don't work in todays gaming: The oldschool onrails shooters. These were loved back on the original Playstation, but by todays standards they would be horrible. Another example? Well, to take a more definite example: Metal Gear Solid. Do you have any idea what kind of outrage there would be if a new MGS game came out with the original controlls? Mario Kart still works perfectly.
I just want to focus on those two points
i lol'd when i read this
Just because the gameplay for certain games have been mostly unchanged, doesn't have to mean that they are outdated
LOL i feel like the guy who did the review now LMFAO!
you are correct here and this is what i was trying to say about Twisted Metal!
the gameplay doesn't need to be changed just like how Mario Karts gameplay doesnt need to be changed(which is why it hasn't)
and this is why that guy had an agenda, all these other games can stay the same gameplay wise but he wants to slam Twisted Metal for some odd reason though!?
notice how none of these other big reviewers said that the gameplay was outdated though
it was only that specific guy
Again, Mario Kart, those controlls work just as well now as they did back then. Twisted Metal 2's controlls? Those would be horrible by todays standards, because they are extremely clunky.
ok now you are trying to justify Mario Kart's "controls" being the same for years as ok but at the same time saying that Twisted Metals 2's "controls" are horrible by todays standards?
you lost me
this is about GAMEPLAY!! LMFAO
the guy was saying that the "GAMEPLAY" didn't evolve
i dont know what you're talking about with this "controls" sh!t
Example of controlls that don't work in todays gaming: The oldschool onrails shooters. These were loved back on the original Playstation, but by todays standards they would be horrible.
what? onrail shooters?
???
are you talking about games like einhander?
no, they wouldnt be horrible
you just need to find a developer who actually would want to put time into the game
Another example? Well, to take a more definite example: Metal Gear Solid. Do you have any idea what kind of outrage there would be if a new MGS game came out with the original controlls? Mario Kart still works perfectly.
hmm pretty decent example there
MGS has in fact evolved but at the same time, this is a stealth/action game
they have room to evolve
now what could somebody possibly evolve in a car game gameplay wise? IT IS A FREAKING CAR GAME!! lol
let me give you an example
here is a GT5 review by the rageaholic
lol
but seriously though, the only thing they could do is add little sh!t here and there but the gameplay would still be the same for the most part
now honestly, i believe YOU had an agenda aswell but decided to back out a few post's ago on the sly but whatever..
