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justinian said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Anybody that argues that there's a difference between the parties are just blinded by partisanship. Republicans are supposed to be fiscally Conservative, and Bush increased the debt massively. Democrats are supposed to care about civil liberties and peace (hell, Obama won a nobel peace prize), and yet he's building more bases, entering more countries, assassinating citizens, signing legislation that allow for military arrests of citizens, and indefinite detention without trial at President's discretion.

Both parties have become a cancer on the USA. What worries me is that the Libertarians/original Tea Partiers WILL get what they want eventually... but only after the parties have destroyed the dollar.

EDIT: It's not just the USA. Politicians are killing Europe, too. Unfortunately, Europeans are even more blind to what's coming than Americans.


This can be reflected across most western democracies. By this I mean there is no longer any real boundary or fence between ruling and opposing parties.

Napolean's qoute (below) in many ways explains this.

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency".

Who owns the US Central Bank? Americans?

Which brings me to your edited bit. A bankers sole object is gain, they would sell their own country down the pan if it fills their pockets. History speaks clearly here.

Yes, I agree. Politicians are killing the west, directly and indirectly.

So for matters like school uniforms and gay rights the President may have a voice. On the economy, war etc., it the banks (and I mean the really powerful banks) that dictate. Afterall, aren't they the people the government seeks first in any financial dealings or situation.


The Federal Reserve?  The US government owns the Federal Reserve, it's a government entity owned by a group of people chosen by congress.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is directly misleading you or doesn't understand what they hell they're talking about.

Banks don't have near any of the crazy conspiracy theory control you think they have.