Mass Effect 3 Demo

[d21lewis]

Khuutra said:

d21lewis said:

Khuutra said:

No no no no no. You have everyone else's loyalty, right? THey're loyal?

Leave Miranda to hold the line. Send Mordin back to the ship. Take Tali and Kasumi with you to fight hte final boss, since their modifiers for holding hte line as so low it's almost comical. Bringing a non-loyal person with you to fight the baby Reaper will get them killed. As long as your strongest people are holding the line, they'll be able to compensate for Miranda being terrible. Trust me! This is worth trusting me over.

Everyone was loyal, I think.  I know that on one of my playthroughs, Zaed wasn't loyal because I chose to save some lives instead of killing his target--but he's never died.  Hope it's not my insane mode playthrough!  Anyway, I do have Miranda go to hold the line.  I think I bring Jack and Jacob but I can't remember.  Whenever we go back to the ship, poor Miranda is always dead.  I'll change up my tactics since I have a week off from work.  Sometime before the game launches, I'll get the right combination.  I'll try your recomendations first!

The way that the "Hold the Line" section works is that every person who holds the line has a point value assigned to them in terms of strength. Let's say a non-loyal Mordin, Kasumi, and Tali are the weakest and have a rating of zero. There are three tiers of characters stronger than them, so let's say the strongest ones - Grunt and Zaeed - when loyal, have values of 4. If they were disloyal, they would have values of 3.

What the game does is it takes the mean average value of every single person that you leave to hold the line. If that mean average value is above a certain threshhold - say, 2 - then nobody dies holding the line. If it's between, say, 1 and 2, then one person will die, with priority given first to disloyal people and then to people with the lowest defense threshhold (Mordin will die first in most cases, but Miranda is disloyal in your file so she bites it here).

Since Miranda is disloyal, the only way for her to survive is to leave her behind and pad out the strength of the line as best you can. Send Mordin to escort the ship, bring Kasumi and Tali with you, and the average value of the defenders will be as high as possible. Taking Jack and Jacob could make all the difference. Jack's almost as weak as the bottom four, but Jacob is in the second-highest tier, a certifiable bad-ass.

In order ot make Miranda survive, here is what you need to do:

1. Make sure Mordin is the one who escorts Dr. Chakwas and the rest of the crew back to the ship.

2. Bring Tali and Kasumi with you to fight the Baby Reaper.

If everyone else is loyal, Miranda will survive. If you want, I can go find the actual formula for you, and I'll do the math just to be sure.

No need.  I believe you.  In fact, I'm going to give it a try, today.  Probably in a couple of hours so I can quit worrying about if I can or can't see Miranda's boobies in ME3.  I used to have a copy of Game INformer (I probaly still do) that featured a flow chart of exactly what would happen if I chose A instead of B and who could/couldn't be loyal.  I don't keep track of my gaming mags like I used to.