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happydolphin said:

o_O.Q said: I never mentioned the Wii U.

I was answering the overall question along all the posts I've had with you and kitler within the thread. It's called lateral thinking and keeping OT and the big picture in mind. Even if you didn't, OT did, and that's the point of this exchange. If it isn't, let me know I'll drop out ASAP.

 

o_O.Q said:

I merely pointed out how absurd this statement is:

happydolphin said:

 If it is a 40" LCD with a thinner debth compared to a vita's surface to depth ratio, then for all suits and purposes it is less bulky. 

That's why I wrote "for all suits and purposes". In other words, apart from the portability argument, the ultra thin screen is less bulky for all suits and purposes. Did I mention the 55" tv I provided weighs 16 lbs? Yeah I did.

 

o_O.Q said:

happydolphin said: the Wii U does not have claw holding and is lighter relative to volume

remind me again what is the weight of the wii u controller?

We don't know. But what we do know is that it is extremely light. That was not said for the Vita, so I consider it reasonable assumption that in all likelyhood (I didn't realize I had to say this), the Wii U controller is much lighter in the volume to weight ratio as compared to the Vita.

 

o_O.Q said:

i don't ask that to imply that i think your statement is wrong but i'm wondering what stats you used to arrive at your conclusion ( i hope you aren't going to say it was that article )

Yes, that article and many others. It's all we have for now, I looked for weight on many other sites but couldn't find it. If anyone else found it, please do mention.

 

o_O.Q said:

happydolphin said:

It can easily be held by both hands (not too big still, comparative to the TV mentioned), can be held comfortably and does not feel heavy. 

i guess you put that there to imply that the vita feels heavy and cannot be held comfortably in both hands?

Relative to the Wii U Controller, yes.

 

o_O.Q said:

happydolphin said:

In the context of portability, the Vita beats the WiiU controller, but that isn't the context of the article, right?

the article wasn't a comparison of the two... so far all i've really seen you do is take their assessment on a device that still has to undergo changes ( for one the battery wasn't even in the unit ) and use that to make your own comparisons, even though you probably haven't handled either device

@bold. This is your best argument so far. Of course I haven't handled the units, did you expect me to? I argue with what I have, and so do you. Don't try to make it look like I'm talking out of my hat, I use the facts I get from the articles I read, as do you.

@italics. My original gripe, along with the part of the scan I quoted, reproduced here for your pleasure:

happydolphin said:

Nsanity said:

(Scan text)

Microsoft are experimenting with a tablet-like controller with a shape closer to Sony's sleek Vita handheld / Apple's iPad than WiiU's bulky unit - it's an HD screen surrounded by the traditional 360 buttons and sticks.

My favorite part... just goes to show mediatic bias and lack of integrity.

@underlined. How is the Vita comparable to the iPad and the Wii U not? It makes absolutely no sense. If you want to continue to defend this position, be my guest, but I'm out.


"But what we do know is that it is extremely light. That was not said for the Vita, so I consider it reasonable assumption"

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-12/09/playstation-vita-hands-on-preview?page=all

"The first impression the Vita makes is how light it is"

http://www.destructoid.com/playstation-vita-hardware-impressions-and-faqs-218523.phtml

"The Vita is solid but light, sleek but hand-friendly"

http://www.ign.com/wikis/ps-vita

"the PlayStation Vita feels pretty light and slim in your hands"

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/1199906/ps_vita_review.html

"It’s surprising how light the PS Vita is"

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/13/playstation-vita-plays-it-smart-with-phone-like-ui-we-go-hands/

"We've handled the PlayStation Vita often enough to know our way around its lightweight chassis and petite thumbsticks"

http://angrybananas.com/2011/06/12/e32011-hands-on-with-the-playstation-vita/#.Tza_tlwS0uE

"The first thing I noticed about the PS Vita is how surprisingly light it felt."

 

i could have added more but regardless, from what i've seen, vita previews that don't mention how light it is are very rare, but at least you concede you are making assumptions

 

"

i guess you put that there to imply that the vita feels heavy and cannot be held comfortably in both hands?

Relative to the Wii U Controller, yes."

that may be right but how did you reach that conclusion? you haven't handled either product and you haven't showed any comparisons on the two from journalists so what is the basis for your conclusion?

 

"How is the Vita comparable to the iPad and the Wii U not?"

its his/her opinion as i said before