| kennyrester said: I don't like watching England because they're boring, but that wasn't my point. My point was that while I understand that you were exaggerating when you said no tactics are needed, the idea that a tactician isn't needed and all england need is o get someone in to motivate the team to go out and try their socks off and score more goals is a silly one. Look at all the best managers in the world at the moment: Guardiola, Ferguson, Mourinho and so on, master tacticians, every one of them.
The other point I was trying to make is that the FA is a bit of a mess. They keep getting new managers in to fix long standing problems which have been well documented, such as the focus on strength and results rather than skills and development from under 8s level up, the fact that players clearly don't try as hard for country as they do for club (look at the performances in South Africa for evidence of that) and so on. A new manager alone can't fix problems like that, as evidenced by the brilliant Capello doing so poorly in the world cup, and by England's repeated failure to progress beyond the quarter final (once in the last 23 major tournaments).
When you say an English style what do you mean exactly? Could you name a team that plays that way? |
when i say english style,i mean attacking teams even if it means leaving yourself open and not worrying about it,so an open game really as opposed to teams that stay tight,a naive type of football if you will,i find that is when we are at our best,end to end a bit like english league football which of course isn't great in the usual searing heat of tournament football,also i am believer of having an english manager as other countries have their own people in charge
now i am not against foreign managers at all i like sven and capello,somehow capelllo and england jsut didn't fit i actually couldn't understand what he was saying in post match which is frustrating,i'll give top managers a chance but i also believe in giving english blokes a chance with their own country if they want it
last 8 is where england are at,thats fine with me,i don't see why you or anyone else has a problem with that on the worlds stage,yes maybe our playeers do underperform compared to our club football but english top flight club football is so massive now,the fa are secondary but i come from a time befroe the prem,i come from a time before football was rarely on the telly
i'm tired of the continual digs at engaland to be honest,quarter finals is good enough for me,i enjoy tournament football and watching england,you may find watching england boring but then they are not your team and to be fair watching england isn't that boring in big tournamentts there is always something going on especially when we meet the big teams
i don't understand why other people and non england people get so critical when england fail,like we should be winning or something anyway i am rambling now,i enjoy football as a whole,watching other countries too in tournaments,i understand england are disliked but its all pretty childish if you ask me
i remember watching england play argentina in 1986 in mexico great game we lost,lineker missed the eqauliser by a shade with two argentinans hanging off him,i remember 1990 waddle hiiting the post and gazza miising the ball by a cm against the germans to take us too the final,infact england 1990 built the premiership of today as that is when TV football really took off and murdoch saw the potential,still rambling
yes ferguson,mourinho,guardiola(a great player in his day) great managers but also with the 3 biggest clubs in the world barring bayern and the 2 milans,club football is not the same as international football in my opinion but of course you need a plan but personally i'd rather england go out as england and play with their hearts and pride and just believe in themselves,not enough positivity around england i don't care if they get beaten aslong as we are putting the opposition under pressure and asking questions of their defencw,tournament football is over before it starts just enjoy it first
anyway,as you can tell i will stick up for england as they are my team and country,good luck to the irish in poland and ukraine,i will be watching
oh and teh fa a mess,of course it is,they are a crazy setup and refused brian clough when he wanted to be england manager,i think we are still paying for that in karma,a big mistake but that is the england cronies for you
and capellos record is pld 39 W 27 D 7 L 5 of course freindlies don't really matter but evrybody is judged the same and teams do like to play at wembley a little bit,i think capello should not have quit/forced out and done the euros but hey it wasn't to be
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