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kanageddaamen said:
I only say suspend the lays of physics so that you can set a known set of values. The deterministic nature of the universe exists REGARDLESS of observers. We are not talking about observations. We are talking about the laws of physics, which hold eve in the absence of observers. F= ma; d = 1/2at^2+vt+c; e=mc^2, these are all true regardless of observers. We are not arguing whether an observer can determine what the future is, only that since laws exists, there can be no deviation from those laws. Observers do not play a role whatsoever

I disagree; however, it appears that no ammount of argument I can make will convince you, and viceversa, so I will let this rest.

But I will say one more thing, the laws of physics can change. The second law of thermodynamics is, after all, not always true, just the absurdly grand majority of the time. That an event 'happens' is relative.