| Zim said: The pictures I posted show DMC4 Dante with a more slender frame actually. You know actual pictures from the games as opposed to a non-existent version of the character? http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-08/art/dmc-dante7.jpg His jaw, eyes, forearms are all the same. If you are going to make up imaginary things then there is really no point discussing it. None of them change at all beyond what you would expect of a game getting improved graphics. Not even considering that in DMC4 Dante is older than in 1 and as such should be a bit bulkier. Seriously your whole argument is based on a teaser trailer that was made as a conceptual thing. Instead of comparing it to the other actual games. It's a joke. DMC2 isn't counted as it wasn't even by the same team. It was a random rushed game. Yes there is a good reason for Dante's appearance changing. In 3 he is much younger so less developed, then in 1 is older and then in 4 older still. His changes are completely consistent with growing older both physically and mentally. The original DMC most definitely doesn't have a believable story. It is over the top. You platinumed Bayonetta? Big whoop. I 1000/1000 it. Not a very difficult task at all. Compared to other hack and slashes it is pretty easy to complete. NT said that Bayonetta wasn't cool because it was too 'Japanesey' I disagreed. Then you agreed with them, so yes you did say the game is uncool and not stylish. Oh and again the RE5 stuff is your opinion. It is far far far more like RE4 than GoW. It is basically RE4 gameplay with co-op added. Oh but look you decided to change the topic to how it isn't survival horror. What a surprise changing the argument again! Hey if you want to get all 'True fan of survival horror' Then neither is RE4 and RE purists will tell you how it ruined the series. So far your only argument depends on the fact you think RE5 and DMC4 are bad. Despite both getting great reviews and great sales.... so yea you don't really have a leg to stand on. And you still haven't addressed how all of Capcom's western games have been worse. Oh also slightly embarrassing for you despite RE5 being a 'pos' you decided to platinum it.... yea. So this terrible game was so bad you played it all the way through at least 3 times and did literally everything in the game? I wonder if you are in fact simply trolling? Seems very likely. So end of discussion. I refuse to debate with someone who ignores points, rather than making valid comparisons points to a non-existent version of a character and decides to troll about a game he clearly enjoyed and played to death. |
No my whole argument is based on visble changes in his physical design facially and anthropometrically that are evident when you look at comparasion shots of the character. your telling me you think DMC4 Dante is the same as DMC1 Dante fine. thats not my problem. i can see the visible changes and the changes in personality from DMC1 to DMC4. the character is inconsistant. which is based on the change in developers which i've already explained. besides its irrelevant. Hideki Kamiya the creator of the DMC series acknowledges that Dante has changed in each installment.
DMC2 was made by the same team who made DMC3 and 4. directed by Hideki Itsuno, director DMC2, 3 and 4. they learned from their mistakes in DMC3. surely if this is your faviourite series you should know all this anyway...
Tameen not Ninja Theory, said that he enjoyed Bayonetta, yet the Japanesy style of the game was ridiculous. i said i thought it was the best action game ever made, which is why i platinumed it, but i agree with him, it is ridculous. firstly dont tell me how to think. i will say what it is i like or dont like not you. like i said the clothes, the sexual inundeo dialogue and the semi-poor story were all part of that style. it wasnt bad, but it wasnt good either. some things were great like level design and music. but its still an over the top Japanese based product, that typically flows from that Japanese style. how many times must that be explained? are you saying that Bayonetta is not Japanese?
DMC1's story isnt over the top. Trish hires out Dante to a mysterious castle, where Dante confronts the hordes of Mundus. its not that ridculous. the orignal never was. the dialogue and the cutscenes arnt over the top either. in fact Dante is pretty cool in the original. you can embed every cutscene from youtube if you must. but the proof is in the pudding. theres nothing that over the top in it at all. DMC1 and to an extent 2 were not over the top. in fact DMC2 was criticised for being too serious in tone. and the story in DMC2 was actully not bad, it was good, it was the gameplay that let it down.
DMC3 the style changed to become more over the top. it was okay. but it was the gameplay that really made the game. DMC4 was an extreme version of DMC4, where Dante is camp. again you can embed the 2 hours of non-sensical cutscenes from youtube if you need further proof. Dante isnt even the main character. DMC4 was designed so Nero would become the main character in the next installements. and your telling me that mentally their is a consistant change in Dante's personallity. are you telling me as he gets older, its realistic for him to become extremely camp. again embed cutscenes for proof.
i told you i dont have time to go through Capcom's library of games to esablish why nearly everything they've done this generation is not that good. this isnt about that anyway. and i platinumed RE5 because of how amazing RE4 was. not that thats relevant anyway.
it all comes down to this anyway. you dont like the game you dont have to harass those of us who like the game, you dont have to insult NInja Theory. as we know its Capcom who instigated this reboot not Ninja Theory. Capcom came to NT because THEY themselves were unsatisfied with DMC. Hideki Itunso is also directing Dragons Dogma, he might have had enough of the series and maybe wants to do something different. its irrelevant, you dont like the game dont buy it, its as simple as that.
and you quoting sales numbers to me. okay fine. God of War 3 sold more copies than DMC4. and a higher metacritic, are you saying that immediately makes it better than DMC3 and 4. based on that alone?? same goes for RE5. load of shooters have higher scores and metacritics, does that mean your saying all those western games are better?? and like i said, why dont you go to Capcom with this. surely if you have a point they will take you seriously...
besides Capcom have said their targetting COD players with more action elements and more co-op for RE6. surely that tells you that their moving away from survival horror, like they did with RE5. your not just arguing with me here. these are things Capcom themselves are saying to fans.
