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kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
Seece said:
Why do analysts and the media in general always blame Nintendo's slow down on social gaming ect. Completely ignoring that 5/6 year old HD HW are having their best years, so no, social gaming clearly isn't having an affect on home consoles, it's just Wii experiencing the usual sales curve.


That doesnt explain the weak 3DS performance and the inevitable PSVita's poor sales performance

People on this forum really need to start to accept that other styles of gaming... mobile phones, pads and yes social gaming ARE going to have a massive impact on consoles.... particularly dedicated handhelds.

And now a raft of people will come and tell me that I am wrong... again.

Lets just wait and see how this year pans out shall we.

15million 3DS is weak?
So I guess the Vita is super doomed in your eyes right?

So mobile phones and social gaming are going to impact consoles? How? 360 just had its best year in 2011. Next-gen consoles could have good enough browsers to play Facebook games. Its just up to Sony and MS to include them.

Social "games" like Farmwille or Citywille aren't going to have ANY impact on the console market. I don't see myself or any of my friends playing Farmville instead of Call of Duty any time soon.


im not going to convince someone of your mindset and you arent going to convince me... no point in debatng.

I just think I'm on the side of common sense.  Clearly the growth of tablets and more powerful phones will impact on handheld consoles in particular.  

Common sense?  I would have to say common sense rests on the other side of the debate.  There's even numbers to back it up, while it seems you are only going on a gut feeling.  The iphone has been available since '07.  Since then the popularity of smartphones has skyrocketed to where ~50% of cellphone owners (at least in the US) have one.  The ipad came out in '10 and has sold over 55 million, with all tablets sales combined probably being in the 100's of millions.  Yet, the 360 and the PS3 (in their 6th and 5th year, respectively) have both just had their best years so far.  As far as the 3DS goes, even with a weak launch, only selling 3.8 million in ~6 months, after it got a more attractive price and better games it went on to sell 10.2 million more in just 4 more months (only used 14 million because of possible adjustments).  It doesn't seem like the smartphone/tablet/social gaming threat is a very real one.  At least not for a couple of more decades, if at all.