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theprof00 on 20 January 2012
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happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

I showed some examples of why I think that is true, based on the fact that for traditional gamers, there is really only mario and platformers.

1 word... No. Rol, care to kick in, I'm not  a list-jutsu expert. :P Plus, didn't you bring up LKS (sim-rpg) and Muramasa:demon blade (action-rpg)? How could you say there is only mario and platforms, that would logically mean you yourself aren't a true gamer, and that's not true. I rather think your presumption is wrong... ;P

I'm having trouble following your argument. Because two games exist, then suddenly there is plenty enough to sustain multiple demographics?

It's called proof by counterexample.

The proposition:

"there is really only mario and platformers."

And its counter-examples you so kindly provided, both considered RPGs on wikipedia:

LKS, Murasama 

Basically, I can see your argument IF you can give me a traditionally core genre besides platforming that is readily available in abundance on the wii.

I understand, but you do realize loose wording like "there is really only mario and platformers." really annoys the heck out of Nintendo gamers. It makes you sound ignorant, and it's very misleading. There are many more games in other genres, but I'm leaving that up to others I'm not big on list wars...

Secondly, this is only one line of my argument, which in total was saying that based on the limited number of unique franchise titles available for platforming, once someone has beaten something like Donkey Kong, there is no 2nd donkey kong, they MUST play a different franchise, thereby relegating a core platform buyer to buying every franchise platformer.

With this logic you will enrage Nintendo fans, as they are constantly being told "Nintendo does nothing but milking their platforms"... One day they are told that, now they are told this... What is it people want??? :$

This results in the very similar sales of the nintendo franchise platformers beginning to who the actual traditional core userbase.

I don't understand this sentence, esp. bold. Honest uncertainty, sorry ... :S

Had I not written the qualifier "really", I would agree with you.

The sentence, specifically bolded, was supposed to say "beginning to show who", as in the nintendo franchises are so similar in sales, and have such few sequels, that for a platformer to get his fix, must buy others, resulting in dramatic overlap.

EDIT: Oh, and muramasa is so much more a platformer than an rpg. RPGs aren't simply defined as having ability levels. It's platforming with a touch of RPG. Also, LKS is a real-time strategy.