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theprof00 on 20 January 2012
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RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

 

Not to say that wii doesn't have great games, because it does. It's just that they get drowned out. I personally love games like Muramasa:demon blade, and little king's story (so glad it's coming to vita). It's just too bad that your typical Nintendo gamer is pretty superficial and doesn't stray away from mario and zelda. It's even shocking to me that metroid gets as little attention as it deserves.

Of course it does, that's part of our shared understanding of why trad gamers would care about the little Wii! ;) Drowned out or not a mature trad gamer would understand not to get entangled by shovelware, so drowning out doesn't matter. Most trad Nintendo gamers enjoy games from Capcom, Konami, Squaresoft et al. because they mostly made their subsistence on the NES, Nintendo's console, where many of us started our love for the company, as fans. So no, most fans don't just stick to Mario and Zelda, we also enjoy exclusives from other companies like capcom and others.

You can't let such a dishonest point slide so easily. The audience on the 360 and PS3 today is pretty much the same as the PS2 audience was. The same people that didn't care for Odin Sphere, the spiritual predecessor of Muramasa. The same people that didn't care for similar small games like Little King's Story on the PS2. Heck, they didn't even care for Okami. Despite these facts, theprof00 tries to portray another audience as superficial, even though the very same thing can be said about PS2, PS3 and 360 owners.

Naturally, a gamer that is superficial will only buy games that are heavily marketed. And looking at the million sellers list of the HD consoles, they are almost exclusively filled with games of that kind. Actually, there's probably not a single exception.

Even more ridiculous was his point that a fan of platformers wouldn't be happy with the Wii alone. At the same time he highlighted it as a genre the HD consoles excel at. Laughable. Absolutely laughable. Likewise, a JRPG fan won't be happy with only a 360 or PS3 this generation.

And yet the lack of games is something you agree that is killing the wii.

You think 360 and ps3 keep growing yoy because of one game? If that was true, it would be the same for wii, which it isn't.

But I do commend you for your ability to cherry pick muramasa and LKS as being counter-points, when my point was that the wii didn't have enough variety of those types of games to completely sustain a specific demographic. This is why I said, a guy into racers could subsist completely on 360 or ps3, because there are so many, with such different styles, and wii really only has one type. I never said vanillaware games sold well on other systems. I brought up muramasa as beign an example that wii does have other games, just not enough of them to suit a specific demographic solely.

I also never said that the HD twins "excel" at platformers. I said a fan of platformers could subsist entirely off of what's available on them. When I said "none of those genres on wii are capable of supporting one demographic, I didn't mean platformers. It was misworded. But again, congrats on using that ONE aspect of my point to prove me wrong. Obviously, had I left that part out, you'd still find something to say, right?