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happydolphin said:

The term "core" is not nonesense. Some are probably in denial because the term was incorrectly used to bash the Wii.It was probably incorrectly equated to "Violent FPS shooter and oversexualized fighter game players".

The trad core gamer, we all know what it is, we all know it exists, we just don't know how to define it.. I like to define it as a person that is serious about his/her games, and is dedicating committed time to playing them, no matter the genre liked. But one thing is for sure, a poseur is not a trad core gamer. If we define a poseur, we could more easily define what a trad core gamer is not.

Having said all that, there seem to be two judging categories, and I provided them in my last post. The barometers for them, imho, are Smash-Halo for the strict verdict, and NSMBWii-COD for the loose verdict. The reason is NSMBWii gamers may be serious gamers, but probably not as serious as say a dedicated Smash fan. COD, the reason why it's loose is because we have a lot of marketing for that game, a lot of word of mouth, so lots of people play that game because others do (either casual gamers or poseurs, your pick), but some though they are less dedicated than say a Halo fan, will play their COD in dedication.

One thing is certain is that no matter which barometer used, the rules apply to all console makers, and with that it's impossible to say one console maker lost interest from the trad core audience.

You seem to strike closer to the definition. I would call your definition the "enthusiast" or "hobbyist" gamer, one that takes the entertainment medium and makes it into a proper hobby (much as how everyone can own movies, perhaps an extensive collection of movies, but not necessarily be a movie buff. The difference is in dedication and how one approaches the activity), but the enthusiast gamer works only in small capacities, the definition of a vocal minority, and there is where your definition based on sales is flawed. Brawl and Halo are mainstream games, as are Call of Duty and New Super Mario Bros. NSMBWii also makes overtures to the expanded audience, a market on the periphery of the mainstream which is where we find the elusive, so-called "casual" gamer

Certain types of mainstream gamers disliked the Wii, as well as a dedicated core of haters amongst the enthusiasts, though many in the enthusiast subgroup also embraced the Wii quite strongly

For identity purposes, the Wii haters in the media boiled it down to a simple dichotomy, one that has skewed our perceptions ever since, leading to all this time i have spent arguing those who still labor under the fallacious dichotomy here today.



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