pezus said:
insomniac17 said:
pezus said:
insomniac17 said:
How will teaching help? They know it's a crime, and therefore know it's wrong. What's left to teach?
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They are pretty much lost causes, that's my point. Something needs to be fixed so such upbringings don't happen. They know it's a crime, but in their minds, what they're doing is not wrong.
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If they're a lost cause, then why not punish them? You can't just let them get away with it because they're a "lost cause." They should be thrown in jail for their crimes. Maybe they don't see it's wrong, but if the punishment is so bad that they don't want to go back again, then that will act as a deterrant, and thus keep them from committing more of these crimes even though they don't see it as wrong.
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I'm not saying they shouldn't go to jail. Punishing just for the sake of punishing though...I don't like it. If you're talking physical punishment they'll most likely take it out on someone else (projection I think it's called in English).
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That is not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying punishment for the sake of justice, for the sake of showing them that it is wrong and not acceptable in society, and for the sake of the victim of their crime. And physical punishment? Not like physical abuse. I mean physical labor. Ever hear of chain gangs? They would be working and doing something productive to benefit society rather than sitting around in a cell all day doing nothing. Repaying their debt to society. Would it be fun work? Heck no. Would it be a punishment and act as a deterrant? Yep. Of course, I wouldn't tolerate any humiliation or insults from the guards. They can't be treated poorly in that respect. And there's no need to starve them or anything like that. But putting in a hard day's work is not unreasonable.
