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Panama on 17 January 2012
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BasilZero said:
Panama said:
BasilZero said:
Panama said:
After finishing FF12 Zodiac Edition today, I can safely say I have no idea what people mean when they say FF13 plays itself. In Zodiac I set up my Gambits and pushed the fast forward button assigned to the L1 button, and watched the game for 25 hours, whereas in 13 you couldn't just mash auto battle from start to finish. I literally watched FF12 play itself for over 20 hours. I think i'll stick with action RPGs if this is where 'turn based' RPGs are heading.


Wouldnt that make FF12 a action RPG....?

I mean FF12 seems more action RPG than turn based. I dont think Turn based RPGs will head the same direction that the FF series is going through.

Action RPG would imply I can actively dodge and attack enemies as I see fit through my own effort, and not just stare at my screen for hours on end.


edited: nvm lol

But you can still dodge them ;p

Gambit system was a bit OP though lol

I suppose if I held the flee button and ran that is dodging in a way lol

It's not so much the Gambit system is OP, but rather it does what the individual does themsevles in a JRPG or turn based rpg in general. It takes any sense of satisfaction and gratification one normally gets from playing RPGs and throws it out the window. For instance setting yourself to cast certain elemental spells on enemies that are weak to that particular element seems awfully efficient right? But you're nothing more than a spectator, that's my gripe with it. That's also why I played FF12 the first time without any gambits, and found it arguably a tad more enjoyable, though the game is clearly designed with Gambits in mind, since some fights can be so long and tedious and leveling up is a chore post level 40. It was ultimately a design that looked good on paper, but failed in execution. One can argue the same with FF13 and I believe 13-2 has ameliorated a lot of the complaints people had with the game. 

Also you're right I don't think other RPGs will follow in the same vein as FF but that's also why I play FF I suppose.