Sony Encouraged By 3DS Sales

[Khuutra]

theprof00 said:

Khuutra said:

It's amazing how long you can go without answer a yes/no question.

Just to be clear: you are basing this discussion on a version of Call of Duty that is, at this point, vaporware. We have no idea how it will compare to the console versions, or even the DS/3DS versions. Claiming that this is indicative of a culture of wide-reaching support is fallacious to the point of self-deception.

Now answer the question in two words or less (elucidate thereafter if you feel the need):

Do you believe Call of Duty and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom will actually help Vita be more than the PSP was? Will they be enough?

Edit: Also the "PSP was never big in America because Western devs didn't support it" thing is not based on what we know of the handheld market; Western devs never supported the DS in a significant way eithe,r but the DS was huge in America. Western devs have never been a relevant force on handhelds outside of a very select few titles that have never affected the handhelds in a major way.

1. I cannot answer your question in a way that would be honest to the discussing because you are intentionally boiling it down to 2 specific instances, which was not my point. I stated before that it was a foundation. To answer your incredibly cherry picked scenario, yes, then no. Yes, MVC and CoD will very much help the vita exceed the psp. No, two games are not enough to make a console.

Look, I understand that you're "attempting" to take the "safe" route. However, the arguments you've posed (ie; the failsafes) say both that western gaming perhaps doesn't have a place on a handheld, and that a system that is meant to be a virtually portable version of the ps3 itself, is not going to have a near ps3 level version of the same franchise's titular game.

Sorry, but your assumptions fall very much far from the inherent logic behind it. But hey, it may turn out you are right in the end. I'm not going to say that I'm completely right, but this is simply both a logical conclusion and a boistrous outpouring of excitement. Do you also think MvC is going to be different?

In the end, your "safe" arguments really only come off as arguing without having an argument, which is - disturbing.

I argue because I can see the possibility. You argue because you're unclear if western games will work on a console? Or was it that a game called call of duty might not be call of duty at all?

EDIT: You also didn't aska yes/no question.

"Perhaps doesn't have a place on a handheld"? I've claimed nothing of the sort. All I'm pointing out is that Western development, or the lack thereof, cannot be the reason for a handheld's failure, because no handheld has ever had Western support on the development side. You claimed that the PSP was not big in America due to lack of Western support, which isn't an argument that holds up under any level of scrutiny. Similarly, it is fallacious to assume that Western support will mean success in the West, just like it's fallacious to assume that Call of Duty is indicative of a larger trend that will be set for other developers.

You're referring to "inherent logic" without actually laying out what that logic is, or how you managed to apply this unexplained logic to reach a conclusion. If it's based ont he idea that Western development is necessary for success in the West, we know this is untrue, so that can't be what you mean. What, then, are you talking about?

I'm not claiming Vita won't be successful long-term. It may well be. I am simply saying that as of now we have no reason whatsoever to believe that Western development will have anything to do with its success, and your own excitement has exactly nothing to do with it.