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Khuutra said:
theprof00 said:

 

I didn't specifically say that I had no answer, but I did say that all i have is anecdotal evidence on top of knowing what the strengths of psp were, and just how much the vita outdoes it. What does 3ds have over ds? Really nothing except graphics. Vita has the graphics, the title capabilities, the new ways to interact, the cheap indie apps, all the games that psp has, and web browsing.

I don't know what kind of metric you want here. You want an analysis of the gaming marketplace or metaphysical theories? I dunno. I see what the psp did well and not so well, and the vita does both much better.

Most importantly, it's getting support. Maybe you just have no idea whatsoever about the psp? Understandable. It was never big in America. Why? Because Western devs didn't support it. It's not surprising you don't know anything about it, as you would immediately know that even just CoD is 100x more effort than western devs ever put into the psp. Period.

CoD isn't just a sinlge game. It's a foundation that is going to set the standard for the console. It may not have huge sales, but devs are looking at this right now saying vita is where it's at. CoD is on Vita, that's the system we want to be on, that's the mainstream system. Games are already in production, and are going to continue to be produced with much more vigor than was ever the case for psp.

But no, I don't have any bar graphs, or research. It's just simple logic. Western Devs didn't support psp. Western Devs are supporting vita. THat's really all that needs to be known about the situation.


It's amazing how long you can go without answer a yes/no question.

Just to be clear: you are basing this discussion on a version of Call of Duty that is, at this point, vaporware. We have no idea how it will compare to the console versions, or even the DS/3DS versions. Claiming that this is indicative of a culture of wide-reaching support is fallacious to the point of self-deception.

Now answer the question in two words or less (elucidate thereafter if you feel the need):

Do you believe Call of Duty and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom will actually help Vita be more than the PSP was? Will they be enough?

Edit: Also the "PSP was never big in America because Western devs didn't support it" thing is not based on what we know of the handheld market; Western devs never supported the DS in a significant way eithe,r but the DS was huge in America. Western devs have never been a relevant force on handhelds outside of a very select few titles that have never affected the handhelds in a major way.

1. I cannot answer your question in a way that would be honest to the discussing because you are intentionally boiling it down to 2 specific instances, which was not my point. I stated before that it was a foundation. To answer your incredibly cherry picked scenario, yes, then no. Yes, MVC and CoD will very much help the vita exceed the psp. No, two games are not enough to make a console.

 

Look, I understand that you're "attempting" to take the "safe" route. However, the arguments you've posed (ie; the failsafes) say both that western gaming perhaps doesn't have a place on a handheld, and that a system that is meant to be a virtually portable version of the ps3 itself, is not going to have a near ps3 level version of the same franchise's titular game.

Sorry, but your assumptions fall very much far from the inherent logic behind it. But hey, it may turn out you are right in the end. I'm not going to say that I'm completely right, but this is simply both a logical conclusion and a boistrous outpouring of excitement. Do you also think MvC is going to be different?

In the end, your "safe" arguments really only come off as arguing without having an argument, which is - disturbing.

I argue because I can see the possibility. You argue because you're unclear if western games will work on a console? Or was it that a game called call of duty might not be call of duty at all?

EDIT: You also didn't aska yes/no question.