M.U.G.E.N on 11 January 2012
landguy1 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
superchunk said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
see again you are seeing something that's not there. they never said the device is not there or in R&D stage or anything, they just said they have no immediate plans. which is pretty much true. I know and agree that planning for a new HW will start ways off but they would have changed a lot of things from the start until reveal. Why deny flat out about the next iteration of one of their products at all? Everyone, ms ninty sony all would start out on their next gen device just as the current one is released. That is not a shocker by any means. Ign and many sources can throw around as many 'rumors' as they want but as we saw most of them were flat out wrong. Waiting to say anything on the matter until something is close to being finalized is the smart and right thing to do. That way no false info and no misleading statements.
and I didn't even want to touch the ps4 topic but I will say this much. This not similar at all, currently we don't even have a decent rumor about the device. Not about the specs, capabilities, launch titles etc. Absolutely nothing. They are not really denying the existence at the moment either now are they? They are saying no current plans to unveil it which could be very well true. Heck they might be still debating if unveiling the device is a good thing at E3 this year. But at the moment I honestly don't see a reason to accuse them of lying.
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I don't want to continue this as you're arguing semantics. (lying vs denial) However, its the same overall. They deny anything about a new product until they officially release it. The denials become vague as it comes closer. First its flat out denying its even being created, later its simply no comment or similar.
Vita's rumors in late 2010 were pretty much spot on with what was shown in January 2011. A touch screen device that is very powerful. Of course details as in processors and gpu were off here and there, many mockups were pretty much the same and only part I can think of that was completely not rumored until very close was the back touch panel. However, all details were known before NGP was officially released. As time got closer, of course they become more numerous and far more accurate.
Right now PS4 is same as early 2009 Vita stuff. Really rare and vague. Sony now isn't denying something exists, just that its not coming yet and by this thread, not at this coming E3.
I think it very well will show up at E3 as it gets closer and they realize MS is going to show something. But MS is doing well at hiding theirs and that is to their benefit as it could take Sony (and Nintendo) by surprise.
My original point is that just because Sony says this, doesn't mean it won't happen. It will depend on how MS handles their next-gen device and if Sony feels they must show something to stay competitive.
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ugh I';m not even sure how you can call 'denial' and 'lying' as semantics lol they are nothing like each other and no you have yet to show me where Sonyflat out denied that they are 'creating' the next gen handheld. You are just running around the obvious at this point
and no, the rumors were most of the time wrong. I'm not even gonna argue about this but trust me, I have followed the device much much closer than you have for certain, especially your comments about thse mockups being the same etc shows that. We only got some solid info on the device just 7 days before the release by a Japanese source. this I gurantee.
I never wanted to argue with your original point as I made clear in my very first response to you. Just wanted some clarification on the statement about the psv you made which turned out to be not true.
let's just leave it at that.
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Wow, was there ever a waste of space on the web than this argument?
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yes, your useless comment would fit that bill
