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ethomaz said:
Seece said:
ethomaz said:
Seece said:
pezus said:
I'm going to take this with a grain of salt until we hear something from sony. MS has manipulated numbers before(europe is not europe)

And people shouted at me earlier for talking about people clutching at straws, MS must by lieing and manipulating the numbers now? Really? *sigh*

No. Just Sony lied and manipulated .

The numbers are fine... no company is lying or manipulating.

I can't see how people were impressed with those numbers... they are in agreement with what is in VGC.

If that number is shipped... if sold then I'm impressed too .

What are, 66m shipped? You're saying VGC is spot on?

66m shipped is in line with VGC figures... 64.4m... 1.6m on shelves.

Now if 66m is SOLD then that's crazy numbers man.

That's could be 66.5m shipped too... so VGC is 200-300k under? VGC tracking well this time.

Wrong, and you can say that all you like but the figures will likely be changed. We don't have that many consoles on shelves for 360.