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thranx on 10 January 2012
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theprof00 said:
thranx said:
theprof00 said:
So you believe in evolution but not human evolution?

SO you think we are special.
Sorry, but we are not. We are unique, definitely, but not special.

I have no problem with you thinking that we are, but you should at least hear the truth. After all, it is only after we look despair in the face that we can truly ascend to higher levels. The idea that we are special is a crutch.


not sure if that was directed at me, but i have said i believe in evoltuion, but the proof is simply not there for a 100% verification that that is what happened to humans. Its a sound and thought out theory we simply can't proove withh 100% certainty at this point in time. So for me that makes it easier for me to understand how some people can not believe in it. That is all.

How can you believe in evolution, but then say humans exist outside the scope of evolution?

 

I do believe in evolution, I also think humans evolved as well. I can just understand how some people can not believe in evolution as there are some missing pieces (which is understandable as we do not have every fossile ever made) and it can't be proved through experimentation at this point in time.

Or are you simply saying that the most likely thing is that humans evolved, but there is not 100% proof? Basically this.

A big problem with the anti-evolution crowd is that they deny every solution. A lot of the same people think radiocarbon dating is faulty. They also think the clonal tree ages are too complicated to be true. They reject using rock formation and things found on different layers of the earth's crust. They reject ice core dating. Pretty much everything that is used for dating which determines a timeline for human evolution is denied simply because they say that dating is accurate, but there is no way to tell whether dating before a certain time is reliable or not.

Especially for things like tree ring dating they say, the rings are accurate, but we don't know if some event caused them to grow rings faster or not. (a phenomenon which has never been recorded)

There will never be enough evidence to convince people that humans evolved. Even if we evolve in the distant future, there will be argument that it was our first time, and somehow predicted by the Bible or some such new religion.


I somewhat agree, I think we are almost there, which is why so many people do believe, but at the same time I would not be caught off guard if we are missing something. I do think over time as we get a more complete fossil record and perhaps experiment more with DNA we may find the final answers we are looking for. It has also been a very long time since i have had any contact with these kinds of topics as I have not been in school for years, but it does interest me.