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slowmo on 09 January 2012
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crissindahouse said:
evolution_1ne said:
crissindahouse said:
 

there is one exception, a company starting with something new and burining money the first years to win money 20 years later or so but that's not the plan of sony with the ps3

LO fucking L

that's EXACTLY what the hell the plan was with the PS3, look alittle deeper and you'll see it (should be obvious but whatever)

yeah that was the plan but they really burned too much money. i know that they knew they will lose a ton the first time. i don't think someone is denyin that sony knew they will lose money the first time.

What was the famous statement, something along the lines of "People will get a second job for a PS3".  The answer to that was no they will not.  Sony never planned to lose as much as they did on the PS3, they had a choice, let the Playstation brand take a massive hit by letting the console die slowly or take a financial hit and hope the long game negated some of the losses. 

Ultimately the entire PS3 strategy was terrible from the start.  I will conceed that had they sorted the bluray laser/drive production and Cell issues early enough then the strategy may have been ok but ultimately the product delivered was 6 months late to the party, too expensive in comparison to the competition, with nothing to demonstrate why to the majority of buyers. 

Sony are indeed loss leaders but they never expected any of the manufacturing troubles to cause so many problems and certainly didn't factor that the Wii would destroy them in sales for most of this gen.  All in all it was badly managed at launch and people paid for their mistakes with job losses. 

To balance the above, the work done between 2008 and 2011 to repair the launch damage by Sony has been excellent.  They have used smarter PR, improved the obvious deficiencies with the console, added lots of new features and of course invested in a large number of new IP's.  Ultimately though it doesn't matter how good the PS3 maybe doing now, it is never going to make up for the first few years and that's why a lot of people class it as not a success.

 

Isn't about time we had this thread for the 360, I expect a reverse of the above poll and a lot of interesting opinions on the subject.  The 360 looks like it is set to make money this gen but can profit wipe out the poor image the console had for years due to shoddy hardware.  I expect hypocrisy galore on all sides.  Only the Wii could be argued a success I feel given most metrics.