theprof00 said:
thranx said:
theprof00 said:
thranx said:
spurgeonryan said:
MrBubbles said:
plenty of christians believe in evolution and the big bang theory. |
Come on now! Most kids growing up in a religous home get taught many things, one of them is that Evolution is wrong!
I am sure there are some Christians who believe that, but I assure you a majority refuse to!
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If your talking about the US. I think you would be wrong. I think you are generalising christians all together when they should not be. There are many types with many different levels of belief. I think many non christians mistake the veiws of christians. I have personaly never met a single person who does not believe in some part of evolution. At the same time, evolution is still a theory and is not the end all be all explanation for life and how we came to be.
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using the word theory as if it is just a guess until we have proof of something else is undermining the term quite a bit.
A theory is a carefully put together explanation of why things happen.
In terms of "speciation", which is what the theory of evolution attempts to explain, it is an explanation why speciation occurs.
Micro-evolution is a proven process. It is testable and repeatable and predictable. However, the main problem that people have with evolution is that scientists extrapolate this micro evolution across species into larger genera. There isn't much evidence to support this because there is simply no way to test it or show it within the short span of time we've been around.
However, the concept of evolution is 100% proven. Nothing will prove it wrong.
There is no, like, graduation from theory to law or fact etc etc, because they all mean different things. A theory in day to day conversation is not scientific theory.
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as far as how humans came to be evolution is very much just a "theory." There are far too many missing pieces in the chain. That is all i said. I never said evolution does not happen, i said it is not the end be all explaniton for how things are today, and that is true. Its a theory that is missing pieces to explain it all. It explains some things, and does it rather well, but not everything.
edit: in retrospect i could of worded the last sentance slightly differently, but in the sense of what people where talking about in the thread as far as humans evolving it stands.
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My only disagreement is that you said it's "only a theory".
While the human aspect of evolution is actually NOT a theory, as it is not able to be proven given the amount of time we have, we HAVE been able to show that evolution exists. You can evolve simple bacteria and paramecium quite easily, and viruses can become completely different viruses after adaption. We haven't been able to show that more complex creatures evolve because there simply hasn't been enough time. If we had been looking at evolution since the 3rd century, and apating animals into different species, we could have shown it. In 2-300 years or maybe as long as 5000 years, we very well could show it.
However, it is widely accepted that less complicated creatures and organisms represent more complex creatures as they all follow the same basic principles. For example, we test on mice to see what effects would be on humans, and insects follow the same basic principles of life as we do.
So yes, while we can't show evolution in highly complex species, it is PROVEN that it exists. And one day in the future, it will be proven for complex creatures. It is a basic tenet of science that something must be proven to be a fact. There is no reason for you to dispute it because eventually it will be proven. Whereas creationism will never be.
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