MAFIA - Round 36.5 - Short Practice Game

[Baalzamon]

Linkzmax said:

1) You do not get to be all arrogant like you were day one last game and then play the pity card here.

2) You've used a vig in your own game, thus you already know how the role generally operates. Nobody would instinctively jump to the conclusion of a compulsive vig.

3) Nobody else is a vig, or Spurge would be dead.(certainly true now that everyone else has posted) This does not confirm him of being a vig though. Even a second kill at night won't confirm him completely as town given prof's belief that an SK shouldn't be forced to kill every night; however, prof also preaches balances so he'd have a counter if that were the case.(Spurge would scan guilty or we'd have a town bulletproof for example)

You talk about fear of recklessness after Spurge said "Well I just don't want to make a mistake like last game and do anything beyond stupid again." meaning if he's telling the truth he's going to be very cautious.

Lastly, it's very telling when you point out that scum would be afraid of it and then insist on your honesty.

Oh believe that which you must, my whole analysis was done on the thought process he needed to target every night.  I know perfectly well how a vigilante operates, and as was stated, had one in my own game.  But the plain and simple truth is that I have not written a single thing from this game down, and it has led to faulty conclusions on my behalf.

I'm not saying my bullshit conclusions shouldn't be looked at, because what I posted is what I posted, and that cannot be changed.  I'm just telling you now, there is a reason why the conclusions are full of shit.

Also, he didn't say he was going to be very cautious.  He said he wasn't going to do anything beyond stupid.  A very cautious vigilante would just not kill anybody throughout the entire game, and therefore not make any mistakes with their kills.  To target those who are legitimate concerns towards the town, however, would not be beyond stupid even if they wind up as town power roles (I'm not saying it would be a good thing for him to wind up killing a town power role, I'm saying risks need to be taken as a vigilante, and I wouldn't consider his decision beyond stupid if his target was legitimately scummy).

Also, I never insisted on my honesty.  I repeated what you mentioned, and said whether or not scum would be more inclined to have that feeling about a vigilante, the plain and simple truth is that I too have that feeling.  More or less, I am telling you I don't care whether the feeling I have is scummy, but it is how I feel.  I'm just having a hard time grasping how this is insisting honesty, when it is doing nothing of the sort.

Finally, I know you dislike the way I play day 1 in this game, but I have given my reasoning for this on multiple occasions, and there is no way in hell it doesn't make at least a little sense to you why I think in that way.