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Baalzamon said:
Linkzmax said:

Why are you assuming Spurge had to target anyone at all? Most vigilantes aren't forced to kill.

What makes you think he's mafia rather than a vig?

If he is vig, don't you think it'd be better to coach him into using any shots he has on shadier players? Lynching him to remove the threat of an additional town night kill is simply a terrible idea. You're giving up the chance of lynching scum during the day instead.

I think you're really just scared of being shot by Spurge, which would be a nulltell given nobody really wants to die. Except that it means you're more inclined to believe the claim, which scum is far more likely to do.

Sorry for not posting at all in the last day, I was out of town.

1.) My assumptions were based on not thinking everything through.  I have noticed over time when I try to analyze somebody or something in this game, I tend to make mistakes.  Whether it be forgetting something that could have potentially happened, or not understanding properly what somebody was saying, it seems to happen quite frequently.  I don't know if I just suck at this process, or if I just try to do it too fast (although we don't have too terribly much time in this particular game).

It is something I need to work on, or else my big large posts are flawed, and more or less worthless.

2.) The entire time I was writing that paragraph, it was under the false thought that he needed to target somebody every single night.  It sounds like a really stupid mistake to make, but to be plain and simple, I have had much less time than normal during this game, and simply haven't been writing down notes and analyzing stuff as I should be.  I need to be making sure to do this, because stupid mistakes really aren't something we can live with in a game like this.

3.) If for 100% certainty he is a vigilante, thinking it through, it probably would be better to coach him, rather than lynch a sure townie, but the thing is, we don't know that he is.  We have somebody who more or less told us, "If I'm watched, I might just happen to be the person who targeted the one who died overnight."  It is something that could be a complete coverup to make us think it is a vigilante killing certain people.  If he is indeed the Vigilante, and being the one who self admitted it, I sincerely hope he is willing to inform us whether or not the death each night was due to him (otherwise we analyze things assuming it was a mafia (or other source, which is doubtful) kill)

I really don't think something such as this is a strategy that Spurge would employ this early in his mafia career though.  It is extremely risky, and to be quite honest, I'm not certain it is even a good idea.

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No offense to Spurge, but him having the ability to kill at night freaks the hell out of me.  While death is imminent for (generally speaking) a majority of the people in each game, the last thing I want to die for is because of a misguided random nightkill by a vigilante.  Being mislynched, killed by mafia, or a serial killer are all something that I can live with.  Even though I want to remain alive in a game, those kinds of things happen.

But in the previous game, although it was his first, he was putting out some of the most random votes and accusations I think I have ever seen (although I should be the last to talk when I myself am voting based off of incomplete thought processes).

Maybe it is something scum would be more prone to be afraid of, but the plain and simple truth is it scares me.

1) You do not get to be all arrogant like you were day one last game and then play the pity card here.

2) You've used a vig in your own game, thus you already know how the role generally operates. Nobody would instinctively jump to the conclusion of a compulsive vig.

3) Nobody else is a vig, or Spurge would be dead.(certainly true now that everyone else has posted) This does not confirm him of being a vig though. Even a second kill at night won't confirm him completely as town given prof's belief that an SK shouldn't be forced to kill every night; however, prof also preaches balances so he'd have a counter if that were the case.(Spurge would scan guilty or we'd have a town bulletproof for example)

You talk about fear of recklessness after Spurge said "Well I just don't want to make a mistake like last game and do anything beyond stupid again." meaning if he's telling the truth he's going to be very cautious.

Lastly, it's very telling when you point out that scum would be afraid of it and then insist on your honesty.