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LivingMetal on 02 January 2012
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sales2099 said:
LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
Statistical tie!

I dont think anybody expected 360 to evaporate PS3s hard work catching up, while at the same time keeping relevant despite PS3s 2011 exclusives!


Not very relevant from a gamer's perspective.  As long as Microsoft primarily caters to the masses and the casuals/non-gamers (shooters and Kinect), it's no surprise that sales have risen as they have during the most hyped shopping time of the year.  From a sales and investor's perspective, the Xbox 360 sales nubers are relevant.  You target the biggest audience, you garnish the biggest sales.  But too bad they did not invest their resources in more 1st/2nd party games such as platformers, action adventures, and survival horror.  If they did and these titles were of considerable quality, the Xbox 360 would become more relevant as a hardcore gaming console.  In fact, the PS3 is more relevant and its sales are more impressive because Sony continues to cater to the gamers by their 2011 exclusives.

360 was very relevant from a gamers perspective. 

You do realize that 90% of 360's and PS3 library is the same. And when you see great multiplats like Assassins Creed, Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, Skyrim, Bulletstorm, Frontline, Brink.....I could go on.......sell much better on 360. MS naturally has every reason to invest into kinect cause they allready have the core gamers on their side. MS's exclusives, while fewer in number, have more real world relevance then PS3 more numerous, yet culturally irrelevant by comparison, exclusives. 

On the internet most of us have the "exclusive complex". You also hear "exclusive whore" or "exclusive nuts". They really don't make a difference unless the people care about them. Flagship wise, Sony has GOW, Uncharted, and GT. The rest don't have public brand recognition. Really, in the end, gamers go for the multiplats as again they are the bulk of the library. 

And to me, given PS2 domination last gen, no amount of how good PS3 is selling can be considered "impressive".


Doesn't matter.  For instance, Dark Souls and Skyrim are both on the PS3 and Xbox 360 both are action Western style RPG's, but Dark Souls sold far better on the PS3 while Skyrim sold far better on the Xbox 360.  It's the target audience of the console and the mentality of the buyers.  Both PS3 and Xbox 360 sales are impressive.  But Sony continues to cater primarily to the core and hardcore games while Microsoft continues to primarily cater to the casual/non-gamers when you look at their exclusive content.  As a hardcore gamer, the PS3 is far more relevant because of Sony's offerings plus 3rd party offerings as opposed to the Xbox 360 because of who they are catering to.  And again, the 90% figure you tout also mean very little in the real wotld when all consoles have their more than fair share of shovelware.

So you think PS3 caters to you more as a core gamer, thats fine and all. But dont confuse your opinion with those of the masses. You really see where the core gamers go judging on the sales of our most big name multiplats. PS3 has multiplats selling in its favor......but far more are simply preferred on 360. 

360 is the core gamers console of choice as it is the emerging mass market console as well. 


Actually you just proved my point.  The Box 360 is doing best in the United States.  As an American, I can testify that the typical mindset of the American pop culture is to jump on the most hyped current trend, i.e. the Xbox 360.  Nothing wrong with in and of itself.  And of course more of the big name multi-platforms games will sell well and on the Xbbox 360 because of the previous reason stated.  But again as a hardcore gamer, numbers themselves at this point in this gen serves very little purpose.  And also as a hardcore gamer, the Xbox 360 sales numbers are not impressive knowing the direction Microsoft is going.  Microsoft themselves said, for instance, that they were going after the Wii market with Kinect.  Of course this is in regards to motion gaming which most hardcore gamers have little to no regards for.  And of the 77 PS3 games I have, 54 of those are either PS3 exclusives or the better multi-platform titles of some reason or another.  As a hardcore gamer, it's very probable that I've done more extensive research than the casual as well as core gamers.  Therefore when it comes to the multi-platform games, I've picked the ones that are better on the PS3 as well as the ones that suit me not counting the exclusives that are on the PS3.  It wasn't because of the pop culture American mindset.  My opinion is different of the masses, but it doesn't discount the FACT that the masses is Microsoft's target audience which caters more to them than hardcore and core gamers.  As I've stated in a past thread, it would be more impressive if Microsoft had focused its resources on more hardcore games (the smaller target audience) of the action/adventure and platforming genre while obtaining the same sales that Kinect (the casual larger audience) had given them if there wasn't a Kinect.