Kinect Vs. Move: One Year Later

[DirtyP2002]

osamanobama said:

DirtyP2002 said:

osamanobama said:

DirtyP2002 said:

osamanobama said:

DirtyP2002 said:

Damnyouall said:

 

 

how has Move failed? how is 8.8 million sales as of June 2011 a fail? thats 9 months after release. you are delerious.

No, thats not fanboy talk. its fact theres videos of it. they clearly show the eyetoy being used to track a wand with a colorful ball on top. its dated way before wii, and its right there on youtube for you. wether or not you choose to ignore these facts is up to you. but saying its fanboy talk is a straight up lie.

bad software support? really? Killzone, Heavy Rain, inFAMOUS, Resisdent evil, LBP2, MLB THE SHOW, Resistance 3, inFAMOUS: festival of blood, echochrome, sports champions, eyepet, deadmunds quest, Tiger Woods, tumble, etc. 

bad software support! yeah not so much. try great software support. with many games that are actually better because of it.

 

1)8.8 million moves sold means a userbase of maybe 6 million, which is not breathtaking in 10 months.

 

2)In your second paragraph you just underline that you did not understand what I was saying. Sure there are youtube vids, but sony did not bring it to the market. Nintendo did, they won, sony played catch up and failed to do so.

 

Yeah, it is a bad software support, because nobody cares about the move support at all. Well except a very tiny minority like you. These games did nothing to sell move hardware and move hardware did nothing to sell the software.

3)Remember all this Move vs Kinect articles / threads / discussions last year? I think there is no way to spin the fact that Kinect was a greater success in every segment. Not just the hardware sales (the number you mentioned is only slightly above the number Kinect did in 60 days) There is no move only title that comes even close to 1 million unit sales, while Kinect has 7 already (Kinect Sports, Kinectimals, Joy Ride, Dance Central, Kinect Sport Season 2, Dance Central 2, your shape) Star Wars and Ryse look like they could reach that milestone as well.

1) soo because it hasnt sold 50 bajillion units in under 9 months, it means it failed? im sorry but selling 8.8 million of something in 3/4 a year is amazing, especially for a perphiral.

2) you said "This Move had been in development before the Wii was announced is fanboy talk. " "And in these 4 years all Sony came up with is more or less the same experience as the Wiimote with bad software support."

well its not fanboy talk its true. and if you are going to go around claiming the Move is a wiimote clone, the same could be said (more easily) about the kinect and eyetoy. and after all nearly 10 years all Microsoft was able to come up with  is more or less the same experience as the eyetoy with awful software support. much worse than move.

3) i didnt know we were debating on which device was more successful. its pretty obvious its the kinect, i thought i along with every one else (aparently besides you) were just arguing that Move it quite the sucess, after you said it was a failure. so if your measurement of failure is anything that sells less than kinect, i guess nearly everything fails.

and there are a few Moe only titles close to 1 million. Sports Champions (only bundled in america), and eyepet. but you are leaving off the biggest draw and success of the move, and that the core titles. Killzone, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Resisdent evil, SOCOM, LBP2, inFAMOUS 2, NBA 2k, MAG, etc.

8.8 million (actual userbase of 6-7 million) is not enough to get 3rd party developer excited. Sony pushed move big time using  "This changes everything" but in fact it didn't. There is no big 3rd party support and we are still waiting for the first Move only game that shows us something the Wii can't. That is why I call it a failure.

Why the hell are these core titles a success of the move. Heck most of them sold less than their predecessor, which did not have move support at all. So Move did nothing to sell these titles and thes titles did nothing to sell the Move.