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Kasz216 on 28 December 2011
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richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
A big reason to be upset is as follows:
The way things are going, society is increasingly becoming a surveillance state, with the government getting increases areas to spy on its citizens without a warrant. Recently, for example, without a warrant, the police flew a predator drone over farmland, without a warrant, looking for possible stolen cattle (cattle actually wandered onto the land) and did an arrest. End result is filmed information with a retraction of rights.

Then, you end up having it so the citizens can't film in defense, so the result is the state is the only one filming, meaning in an age of information, the citizens aren't able to fight back to defend themselves. And, if you don't find this troubling, you are willfully remaining blind. All this is EXACTLY how dictatorships work. The citizens are in isolation, spying on its citizens, and the citizens just take it.


You do realize that it's perfectly legal to videotape the police even under that law right?

The laws for taping video and taping Audio are completely different.

So, is the fact that the police arrest people over this due to ignorance or incompetence?

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/s2174896.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxfRKEPJRY

A case of a woman filming police resulted in her being arrested.  And earlier on, you actually did argue that it was a problem to film, and the police were justified and there were laws on the books to protect the police from gangs videorecording the police.

 

Neither it's just your incapability of reading.

It's legal to videotape the police... just like it's legal to tape any Illnois citizen.

It's Illegal to AUDIO tape the police, just like it is ANY Illnois citizen. (though the penalty is harsher.)

If you taped a police officer with a security camera style camera, it would be perfectly legal.

Aside from which, I'm not for the law.  However I can understand why it's in place since there are dozens of ways taped audio can be abusedto harm others, and don't think it's too obscene a law because  it's giving the police exactly the same rights as regular people, but with less protection.