insomniac17 said:
The problem that many people have with the stimulus is not that it wasn't big enough, it's that it existed at all. The country is beyond broke, and yet spending in the last few years has drastically increased. That money has to come from somewhere. And no, I don't like Bush. He was bad with spending too. Say why you think the stimulus would help, and maybe you can change some minds. It's hard for many people to see why spending more money will help the country when we're so much in debt as it is. The problem that many people have with healthcare is that in places like Europe/Canada (?) where you do have it, you end up having to wait forever to get care, whereas now in the US, you'll get in much sooner. Pay is an issue, but there are charities and people are willing to help those in need. I really dislike your attitude and the way you presented your argument. Whether or not I personally agree with you is irrelevant. If you insult people like this, no one will listen and they will only get mad as well. I can understand that politics gets people riled up; I get pretty fed up with it myself sometimes. But you can't insult people and generalize like this and expect people to be interested in what you actually have to say. For example, saying that Republicans are racist because they do not like what Obama is doing (No way in hell would they allow a black man save the economy that would open up the door for others.) is absurd, unfair, and downright insulting to them. As far as I'm concerned, both political parties have failed the country and both need to seriously change in order to set things right. |
I just assumed he wasn't being serious.
I mean, what I don't get is... if 800 billion isn't enough for stimulus... how much is?
800 billion was completely unnoticable.
So what... 4-5 Trllion maybe?
I mean, the Atlantic has a good piece on it... and the Atlantic is about as close to a leftwing magazine as you can find!
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/08/how-big-a-stimulus-did-we-need/62228/
What's funny by the way, about the CBO's analysis on the stimulus, is that they created a "Stimulus growth formula" that existed before this stimulus. Then after the stimulus happened.... they just subtracted the percentage of GDP and jobs the stimulus was "supposed to create" and say it was a succeess.
In otherwords, we could find out that in reality all the stimulus funds ended up being sent to an island and burned, and their model would still say it was as successful as it is now.
IF Keynsianism did works, would be much like the current cures for cancer. They have plenty of drugs that kill cancerous cells. The only issue is, it kills regular living cells as well. In otherewords, it would require way more money then anyone could afford!