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Tridrakious on 20 December 2011
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sales2099 said:
360 YOY growth is AMAZING!

And the funny thing is....they saved their price cut for 2012. PS3 doesnt have a chance

just like i said this yr.(and predicted correctly) MS doesn't need a price cut(not in the U.S anyway), but they will have one, but don't count out another PS3 price cut in 2012, so i wouldn't jump the gun on PS3's chances next yr, price cut or not.

yea i know it's highly doubtful, but the possibilty is still there. on that same note, you're right.


Sony better have a stronger plan than a another price drop. They just cut the price down $50 this year. Even a $25 price drop wouldn't do much and Sony would be getting crushed by the RED numbers in the gaming division again.

Profit needs to be the focus for this division. Vita is already going to be selling at the loss/break even point. Sony needs to have a 16gb memory card sold for every Wi-Fi model to break even there. If any of the memory cards get sold to a customer who buys the 3G model, Sony will profit. But cutting the price of the PS3 would be a bad move.

Jack Tretton can't lead the PS3 to victory. SCE Japan and SCE Europe need to crush the 360 next year. There must be a plan in place to hold off the 360 without a price cut.

how could i possibly disagree with that? yet i'm not so sure Sony has any idea what to do next yr. if we use this holiday season as a sign of things to come, then, 2012 looks really bad for Sony.

Jack Trentton has pulled out near ever trick in the book, yet their achilles heel is still their avertisment, and the worse part is that they can't get a decent deal from any 3rd party pub., or retailers.

if i don't know anything else, i know this. and thats if Sony plan to make any profit next yr. there going to have to cut cost somewhere. i'd love to see SCEJ and SCEE do something in the gaming division, but these days it seems it's all SCEA.


Jack Tretton hasn't done much of anything, he never really has. He is just like Howard Stringer. Right place at the right time. Jack has his moments of sounding like he knows what he is doing, but he doesn't. When push comes to shove he can't fight.

Sony has the advertising for the hardcore, but Kevin Butler has went from a "mainstream" promoter to just the hardcore. Sony's first party is crucial to show off the power and potential of PlayStation hardware. What Sony needs to do is work closer with EA. Special exclusive DLC for 2012 EA releases. PlayStation Move needs to have a bigger presence in 2012. Instead of a price cut. Sony needs to launch a new PERMANENT bundle. LittleBigPlanet 2 Special Edition needs to be packaged in til they discontinue the system.

ok, so i gave Jack credit for SS and ND which you're saying isn't credit he deserves which i can agree with. it seems north America can do without Trenton from your perspective.

i guess Sony as a whole is missing a more aggresive strategy.

maybe Sony are looking at the fact that for most of this gen., they've had to fight, claw, and cratch thier way back having create their own ip to have any chance this gen, so their relying on themselves v 3rd party support?

i'm not sure Sony even knows what to do with move? move has so much potential for the hardcore, and the family friendly, but the software just isn't there. i'd like to know what Sonys next step is(from thier serspective, not our's), cause what ever it is, will  determine how move will be used, and viewed in the future, and for the most part, moves potential has yet to be shown.

i think KB would be better as a mainstream v the core. it seems EA and Ubisoft are Sonys last chance next yr. a special edition AC consolecould help

medieval nights, the fight light's out, (i have yet to play either game, and reviews are opinions)and Sorcery are steps in the right direction, but they have yet to make move or the later 2 ip mentioned seem relevant.

i think with Sorcery, move will have that presence, considering it's amongst vgc PS members, most anticipated ip, but it can't be the only thing in their move library for 2012.

i'm not really sure what SCEJ and SCEE can do at this point, but i'd like to see something within the next few months. it'd nice to know what those 2 have been working on as of late. 


Kevin Butler could make the jump back to being much more mainstream than where he's at now, but what I'm seeing is that Sony is going to mostly move away from Butler. Bad move, but they've had about 5 commercials over the holiday (so far) and Butler has been in one and it wasn't that good.

Jack Tretton took over as President and CEO SCEA after Kaz Hirai ran during the PS1 and PS2 eras. By the time Jack took over the PS2 was weakening because the new generation had started. I wouldn't pin everything on Jack, but as a leader he is leading the American branch that is about 20 million units outsold by the second place console in the war (360), which its self was almost 8 million units outsold by the leading system. Of course Kaz had the brilliant Ken Kutaragi leading the division. Even with that though Kaz has been pushed for the complete rebranding of the PS3, new advertising, bringing the game developers in to make the Vita.

Tretton can't succeed. He barks ALOT, but he has no bite.

PlayStation Move does have so much potential. I know it might sound bad, but SCEI needs to force top notch developers to make games for the controller. Games that require the controller and then bundle them together for a year.

SCEJ over saw Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Gran Turismo 5 (combined have sold over 11 million units, I believe) and SCEE has LittleBigPlanet that rivals Uncharted in terms of sales and then there is KillZone that also performs pretty well.

For the third party thing Sony has strengthened their WorldWide Studios to rival Nintendo's (Yes, I did say that, deal with it Nintendoites). They need to finish this generation stronger on the third party side than they started. The PS2 was so dominate because Sony was making outstanding first party games and was getting outstanding third party exclusives.