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Dr.Grass on 19 December 2011
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d21lewis said:
UltimateUnknown said:

@Baroai @Kyliedog Yes both of you illustrate my point.

Btw guys I wasn't talking about single player mainly, but more about multiplayer (where there's no aim assist). Let me illustrate my point with some video evidence. Here's a video of one of the best Wii COD players I know of playing MW3 on Wii:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asFsZvr9TuE&feature=channel_video_title

As you can see and if you listen to him, with the Wiimote you can only hope to hipfire (spray and pray) to effectively take someone out in close range, while long range ADSing is almost impossible. But even hip-firing he's wasting a lot of bullets as his cross-hairs are moving all over the place. Now look at this guy playing MW3 multiplayer on 360 using normal controller:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZMwjf5zZE&feature=channel_video_title

I chose this video intentionally as it has a good amount of Hip-firing and ADSing. As you can see clearly ADSing with controllers is smooth without any involuntary movements and even when you are hipfiring, your crosshairs stay exactly where you are pointing which makes it much easier to actually hit a guy (god forbid using a shotgun using a Wiimote).

Now both of these guys are pretty skilled and serious gamers, so its strict tactical multiplayer gameplay which I am talking about. A lot of you seem to be saying that you can aim at targets quicker with MC, but you can do so with controllers as well with 10 sensitivity if you can handle it and what good is aiming quicker if you can't be steady with your aiming? Do you really think the first guy could ever replicate the second's efficiency with his given control scheme?

I think your first video proves that the Wii configuration IS better.  Yeah, he misses a few shots but goddam, does he get back on point, quickly.  AND, he's not aiming down the sites.  He's shooting from the hip.  He specifically says that the Wii Remote is so accurate that he can fine tune his shooting precision by making small movements.  For that reason, he maintains his full mobility, full field of vision, and his accuracy. 

I use handguns and rifles all of the time.  I go through serious training four times a year.  I also have to perform using special modified weapons vs. another team four times a year (called Force on Force drills).  As a result, I get to deal with various instructors.  I'm trained for combat (as well as being former military and an ex-cop with 7 years under my belt).  My instructors have said time and time again that it's not about who can get the most accurate shot.  It's about who can get a good shot off, first.  If there's a Wii configuration that uses the Classic Controller or a PS3 configration that uses the Move, I would bet my dinner that a great MC gamer would totally destroy a great Controller player 9/10.  They're just too precise.   While the controller user is trying to get on target or aim down the sites, the MC user is just shooting from the hip with blinding speed and wearing them out!


Just stop wasting your time. The OP doesn't want to accept what you are saying. Even though it's bloody obvious to every seasoned gamer in existence.

When I was 12 I argued with my friend that I could take him on in Quake2 with a controller (I had the PSOne version, him the PC). No matter what he said, I kept disagreeing. Then, 6 years later I saw him playing Quake3 1-on-1 and I KNEW I wouldn't even be able to get a single kill against this guy. I was dead, dead wrong. Ignorant and wrong.

This is no different, perhaps just a little less extreme.