voty2000 said:
LivingMetal said:
voty2000 said:
LivingMetal said:
voty2000 said:
LivingMetal said:
Persistantthug said:
LivingMetal said:
Dude, I really feel sorry for you. Your unjustified hatred for a company has blinded you from the joys of gaming. Take a very close look at my game collection. There are so many games that have and are being offered on a Sony platform than any reasonable gamer can see that a Sony gaming platform is well its purchase. But instead, you take this unfounded unproven hated of yours to find reason to love hate over gaming. Maybe there is a lot of Sony support here because we gamers see the goods, and we want to see them keep bringing out the goods to all of the legit gamers that actually support gaming and not a petty fueled selfish agenda. You can keep hating on, but the rest of are are going to keep gaming.
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This isn't about hate for Sony.
This is about Consumer rights. Sony was just allowed to go in and violate everyone's rights by taking away shit that they bought, simply because they felt like it.
Wait until it's something you actually want
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And I have the right to play a game without the unfairness of hackers exploiting a system that makes it unfair for the mass majority. This helps protect Sony's IP as well as guarding the consumers' right of the majority. And you know better that it's not "because [Sony] felt like it." Sony just protected my rights as a consumer as part of the mass majority of PS3 owners. Yes, the backlash against Sony is unfounded hate whether it's simple ignorance or platant belligerance when failing to see the bigger picture.
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Consumer rights are a right, playing online is not a right. You've made this statement in other threads and it's just wrong. Playing online is a privileged provided by Sony not a freaking right. Sony does not have to let you use its online service so it isn't a right. The US government has to give you free speech so it is a right.
If you're willing to give up consumer rights so that you don't have to occasionally come across a hacker online then your priorities are just off and terrible for those who actually want as much freedom as they can get. I will never understand people willing to give the government more power because they don't like the HACKZERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oohhhhhh... So maybe installing Linux on the PS3 isn't a consumer right either. No matter how you cut it, the logic cuts both ways. Unfortunately, the ones bashing Sony here for their actions are not seeing the bigger picture as I've mentioned now and in other threads. And you're doing the same by attempting to find "fault" in my statement when with the same logic can be applied to the other side of the argument. Also if it's so important for some to install Linux on the PS3, maybe their priorities are off as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh... you didn't. Go figure why.
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All I said was that you stating that playing online is a right is wrong. Don't care about your opinion on the other stuff and I didn't bring it it. I just pointed out that that single statement is false and we shouldn't be willing to give up rights so that our lives are more convenient.
I wouldn't bother arguing with you about the Linux deal and such since you don't even know the difference between right and privilege.
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And installing Linux on the PS3 is a right for others? So what rights are being given up in regard to the context of this thread, and how you YOU justify it as a right? I exposed your hypocricy. Stop justifying yourself. All you're doing is appealing to the chior.
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Oh my, my hypocrisy is exposed. Calling you out about your statement saying that playing online is a right when itss a privilege has exposed me. I don't care about the rest of the thread. I've just seen you use that statement before and it's just plain dumb.
I will play a little though and say that installing Linux is not a right. But apparently you simply can't pay attention. Nobody is saying that installing Linux is a right, that is something your making up in your head and if anybody did say that it is right then they are wrong. They are saying that Sony taking away a feature that was included with the system when they bought it is a violation of rights. You do this with all Sony and hacking threads. You ignore what others post and put things in their mouths so the entire argument is them correcting you and it gets nowhere so everyone just gives up and you feel smart.
You act like you made a point with me and you've missed my entire point. Go ahead and make more garbage up and make a smug statement so you feel better about yourself. I'm watching Ernest Scared Crazy with my nephew.
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For the record, my statement about playing online as a right was a demonstration of using one's logic against them which I have successfully done. In fact anyone who personally knows me can testify that I could care less about playing online since I highly favor single player games over multi-player games especially online games. Persisttantthuge specifically said:
"This is about Consumer rights."
The topic thread was in regards to the Other OS feature which Sony disabled in newer versions of their firmware. If it a consumer's right to install another OS on the PS3 for their enjoyment, why can it not be consistantly argued that it's also a right to play online without the unfairness of hackers' exploits through "other OS?" This is my context. So you have been the one putting words into my mouth and making up garbage by taking things out of context. Because I said:
"And I have the right to play a game without the unfairness of hackers exploiting a system that makes it unfair for the mass majority..."
I never said I have the right to play online in and of itself. See. Big difference here. And just just because I don't agree with every response in this thread and I have my own response doesn't mean I've ignored and missed points. So please stop making up garbage and stop being quick to point out people's "fault" (especially ones you've made up) when you turn a blind eye to those who favor your POV when the logic also count against them as well. I'm sure your nephew will appreciate the positive inflluence.
