Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
sethnintendo said:
Kasz216 said:
Did Reagan have any active war's... i'm drawing a blank.
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There was the whole Iran-Contra debacle. While we weren't technically at war we did give weapons to help fuel a war. Funny that we were so scared of WMDs from Iraq (I wasn't) when we allowed the use of chemical warfare against the Iranians and the Kurds. It is pretty obvious USA needs to stop messing around with other countries (especially the Middle East and Latin America). Every time USA tries to interfere/intervene with another country they usually mess things up. The world would be better off if USA would stop trying to interfere with every country.
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I wouldn't disagree. Though yeah, i wouln't call Iran Contra a war persay. Ridiculious... but not a war.
Still it says something about US Presidents.
Bush's mistake compaired to other presidents wasn't that he ordered an attack. It's that he actually decided to stay.
Typical US procedure is to just pound the otherside making their lives miserable and targeting their bigwigs until they give us what they want. In this case he actually ran them out of power, leaving him with the legacy of needing to nation build.
Had Bush just bombed Afghanistan until they have up Osama (or he went to the wind and we got something else from them) and hell, even bombed Iraq until they let weapon inspectors in or something...
Almost no one would of cared.
Problem was, like Jimmy Carter. George Bush was an optimistic idealist (of course with far different views.)
Bush actualy thought he could run them out of power, get the US what it anted AND install democracies that would praise the US for saving them.
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Grenada was brought up, and you're forgetting Bush 1 and Panama, as well as Bush 2 with the mission against Charles Taylor (president of Liberia)
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Not so much forgetting as in general, not knowingabout grenada (was like 1-2) or the Charles Taylor thing apparently completely missed my radar somehow.
while the Bush 1 Era... as far as Bush foreign policy all I remember is vaguely a "Dead or Alive" novelty Saddam Hussein poster and in general the iraq war, because that was right around the time where I knew who the president was and was paying attention but only had TV news to go off of since I didn't have a computer yet and only one newspaper. (Was around 10.)
Bush's economic policy was always the more interesting part of it, since it seemed like he didn't do that badly and yet only had the one term.
Either way, the point still stands, War is actually sadly commonplace for US Presidents. I mean, i'm just assuming carter didn't have any armed conflict like wars. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he's probably the only one post WW2?
Even Pre WW2 it's not like the numbers would be great presidents wise. Seems the US was always in a war, and when it wasn't it was committing genocide on the Native Americans, which i'd say counted.
