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lordmandeep said:
I find it funny how we all talk about Cheney but we never ever talk about Biden.

I think Obama took a lesson from the relationship of Bush and Cheney and did not want a strong VP.

Cheney was a bad person but likley the most influential and powerful VP in a long time.

I think Joe Biden is a much better person, but quite useless overall.

Both were useless in elections though, but in terms of influence its easily Cheney. However, who is the better person, Biden easily.

Well that's because Joe Biden is marginalized because in general he's nothing but an embaresement.

While Cheney (although also an embaresement) was competant at what he did, and was essentially given power like a cabinent member would have.

You could argue a lot of Bush's mistakes were due to Cheney's prodding.


Biden you just keep away from everything because your afraid he's going to say he wants republican lawmakers to be raped or tell some outlandish lie about his life, like saying he was the top of his class when (he wasn't) or how he was the first in his family to go to college, (He wasn't) lying about how his wife died to score political points.  (Said she was killed by a drunk driver, police reports show he wasn't drunk and she was likely at fault for the accident.  I mean... the hell?)

I'd marvel at the fact that Joe Biden somehow was a senator for so long... if it wasn't for the fact that we had a senator around in 2003 who used to be a member of the Segregationist Democrat party.  (Strom Thurmond).

Political primaries and only 2 parties sucks.