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JGarret on 14 December 2011
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nuckles87 said:
Sevengen said:

After 9/11, and with consideration to the context of fear, survival, and pre-emptive defense that overwhelmed our military doctrine, would we have invaded Iraq? If Saddam had not toyed with UN inspectors for nearly a decade, refusing to follow sanctions and requirements of UN law imposed on him for his brutal and purely imperialistic invasion of Kuwait, would there have been a war?
The answer is again, NO. So, we didn't start that one either.
Sorry for what may appear to be a personal attack on your post, it honestly isn't... just more or less a correction of opinion for those that may happen across your words and accept them as fact.
Other people need to know better.


So...what, if a country shows itself to be a potential threat, we have to invade?

By that logic, we'd have attacked Iran and North Korea years ago, the other two parts of Bush's stupidly named "Axis of Evil".

Yes, if Saddam was a nice, polite US ally who did everything we asked, we wouldn't have invaded. But on the other hand, Iran and North Korea have also long been defying the UN and the US. We haven't invaded them, and we didn't need to invade Iraq either.

You also seem to forget that we invaded Iraq based on a LIE. Or at least, something that wasn't true, if you don't want to go that far. Bush and Cheney walked up to the American people, and claimed that Iraq had nukes and ties to Al-Qaeda. It would later come to light that they had neither. Meanwhile, our relationship with North Korea would continue to collapse, not helped by Bush's "Axis of Evil" comments, and would eventually drop the Framework Agreement with the US to prevent from them from developing nukes, and would then test their first nuke. And now Iran is coming ever closer to the same capability, which is practically inevitable.

In short, the Iraqi war was built on a lie, and Iraq itself was not a unique case, as other countries have been just as uncooperative. Being dickish to the UN is, as far as I'm concerned, not a cause for war. It's as far as I'm concerned, a unjustified war. Not necessarily a waste of life, because at least we've given the Iraqis a shot at freedom.  Only time will tell how they use this chance.

The country has spent billions on a lie (Iraq war)...so much money that could have gone to far more useful things.