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Izo on 13 December 2011
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fordy said:
Izo said:

1.  It can directly correlate if they find a door through OtherOS that Pirates will exploit to pirate games which is the fear that caused Sony to remove it in the first place.

2.  It really comes down to this. I created a product and someone is going to do something that benefits a few while causing damage to me and the majority. The question I'm asking is do people have "rights" to get back a small feature no matter how much harm they do to get it?

3. That still doesn't stop pirates from getting free software.

Another thing is people act like Sony randomly decided to take something away from it's consumers and no one cares how reasonable it was. It's Geohots and the pirates that are responsable for OtherOS getting slashed.  From a just standpoint I understand they had to protect themselves. From a legal standpoint they clearly lost the case.

You just made a GIANT contradiction there, and I'll explain why:

So tell me, how is the will of the few (the pirates) being looked at as the general discourse as opposed to the majority (legitimate users), who would, say, wish to run a Linux home theater setup? Well, given your point in number 2, that's the contradiction. The majority of the users who would use this break for legitimate purposes are being "damaged" by the minority who wish to pirate games, in that they can no longer use their feature.

The way I see it, if you pirate, you should feel the full force of the law. Should YOU care if other people pirate? Only if you're a developer or publisher. In other words, whatever they do with their console is THEIR business, much like whatever I do with MY console is MY business. If they wish to pirate with it, they can, but they still have to deal with copyright laws just like the other systems do. There is no need to overcomplicate things here..

The will of a few? The pirates do not come in few they steal games in the millions and cause hacked online lobbies.  Also the OtherOS users were also very few and it sucks for them but theres a bigger picture here and they could have kept OtherOS if they wanted. 

The way I see it is that people become reasonable and stop pirating where it starts.  Punishing each and every pirate is impossible and its millions in damaging fighting a pointless war. Modding a console is fun but it leads to problems just so a FEW people can use them legit and the rest steal everything they can. Mod on your PC dont create problems for others.

Yes it is the pirates who damaged the few who used OtherOS. People who want to play a stupid snes emulator on there ps3 defend modding even if that is what opens the door to theft. Then there solution to the problem is to target each person seperately no matter how much money and resources it takes.