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fordy said:
kitler53 said:
fordy said:
kitler53 said:
fordy said:
o_O.Q said:

really and truly i place most of the blame on geohot, had he not distributed  means to break through the security sony wouldn't have removed other os ( there would have been no reason to )

You mean the security on a device that he paid for? That bastard! How dare he attempt to modify something that's his!

People here have to realise that this was Sony's attempt to regulate user purchased hardware in order to save money on server-side security. After this debacle, as well as the hacking attempts on a lax security PSN, it has come back to bite them on the ass.

Now, if Sony was handing out PS3s for free, then you wouldn't hear me complaining. Sony could do what they want with hardware that's still theirs, but this is hardware purchased by a customer. Are you really going to stand there and say that Sony have a right to do this?

yes.

I'm sure you're looking forward to the day when corporate entities tell you exactly what to do...


lolol, the crux of the issue is i believe in IP and you don't. i believe that individuals as well as corporations that invest in the creation of new things and new ideas deserve ownership of their work.  you believe you are entitled to other peoples work.

 

Your Strawman argument isn't worth answering, though I will break a few logical steps for you

1. Purchased hardware DOES NOT imply third party modification

2. Freedom for hardware you purchase DOES NOT imply piracy

People still have the right to pursue copyright infringement, with or without forcible enforcing client side security. Nobody is taking that away. Also, you're implying that people don;t want client side security ONLY so they can hack? Well then, we'd better make sure nobody out there is allowed to modify on their PC anymore, either!


you're jumping the gun by bring up piracy ... i haven't gone there.  the OS on the ps3 is IP and you have a license agreement with sony with regards to what you can do with it....and it ain't much.    and a ps3 isn't a PC -- you're license agreement with MS's windows isn't your license agreement with Sony's OS.  if you don't like it then do the proper consumer responsibility -- don't buy it.  that's what we called a free market.