fordy said:
o_O.Q said:
fordy said:
o_O.Q said:
really and truly i place most of the blame on geohot, had he not distributed means to break through the security sony wouldn't have removed other os ( there would have been no reason to )
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You mean the security on a device that he paid for? That bastard! How dare he attempt to modify something that's his!
People here have to realise that this was Sony's attempt to regulate user purchased hardware in order to save money on server-side security. After this debacle, as well as the hacking attempts on a lax security PSN, it has come back to bite them on the ass.
Now, if Sony was handing out PS3s for free, then you wouldn't hear me complaining. Sony could do what they want with hardware that's still theirs, but this is hardware purchased by a customer. Are you really going to stand there and say that Sony have a right to do this?
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"the security on a device that he paid for?" good point but he didn't pay for mine or anybody elses ps3 and when he starts to distribute hacks that affect other users he has to be held accountable in some way...
i'm quite sure that had he kept his hacks to himself and his as you say "device that he paid for" sony nor any of the ps3 community would've cared about him but he didn't his actions affected the entire ps3 community
"Are you really going to stand there and say that Sony have a right to do this?" legally yes and i already said it was unfair but of course i'd rather have a console with support for games and cheat free online play as opposed to the opposite ( what goehots actions would've led to going by what happened with psp )... you may disagree but i bought my ps3 ( and i'm guessing most have ) for games not operating systems that can be better supported on a pc
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So now he's also holding a gun to your head to force you to modify your hardware? What kind of retarded logic is this, exactly? If you don't want the damn hack, don't put it on your PS3. Problem solved.
The "entire ps3 community", by which you mean PSN, is a service that Sony supplies, and therefore they DO have a right to secure that. Once again, the problem isn't CLIENT SIDE SECURITY, it's SERVER SIDE SECURITY. Am I going to have to repeat this a dozen times every time this conversation comes up? For fucks sake...
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"he's also holding a gun to your head"
no but his hacks affected others when they are used to cheat in games ( affecting users ) and to pirate software ( affecting publishers and developers although i believe it was never so extensive that it had a great effect but it probably would have eventually led to a situation like the psp if nothing was done about it )
and i'll reiterate this one more time i absolutely believe that the user has the right to modify their console as they see fit but not when others have to suffer the consequences because of their actions
