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superchunk said:
theprof00 said:
 

It isn't reading comprehension at fault. I'm just bypassing the argument by saying, "where else do you even get the option".

Nowhere. So why are people complaining? Think of it this way. The identity of your system is tied to your mem card. You pull that out, and it's a blank machine. That's fucking cool if you ask me. Nowhere else do you get that option.

And the complaint about having to buy two copies of a game?

You have a ps3 with mutiple accounts. You download on one, share to the other, download both accounts to different mem cards. No buying two versions! Then you have the US/Japan, or EU/Japan, US/EU etc etc.

And please, people complained when they were limited to how many copies of a game they could share. Seriously. I can't permanetly give copies of my downloaded games to my friends for free. Fuck Sony!

 

I think the only real point here is that the cards are expensive. 50$ is quite a bit. But youknow what, I'm not uncormfortable with my friends playing with my portables. And if I was, I'd probably already be of the mindset that my hangups cost me money in hand sanitizer, plastic wrap for my couch for when friends come over, buying a second bottle of coke in case a friend wants a sip of mine. :D

Actually, quite a few places.

1) Any Android device. I can have and do have multiple google accounts including one my wife and I share for Google Music so we can share all the music we purchase. This would include phones, tablets, google tv, etc. (I don't own iOS or WM, but I'd bet at least WM does this as well)

2) PS3 and 360. You can have any number of PSN/Live accounts and utilize them individually on the same machine without anything extra.

3) All Nintendo handhelds based on the game itself. While games like Pokemon force one save at a time, the greater majority do not and multiple people can all share the same system/game with different game saves without any extra cost. Hell, quite a few games allow you to play multiplayer with only one copy of the game with numerous other same system owners. Now here the console is tied to the store and digital purchases which in itself is a poorer solution than having a PSN/Live account, but, that's a different argument.

4) Any PC/Mac/computer. all of these allow you to create any number of profiles with fully different settings and even applications all from the same hardware without any extra cost.

Fact is, its a damn shame how Sony is forcing this limitation on its users and I'm 100% positive its based solely on increasing their bottom line, not consumer experience or technical limitations.

They should have followed their PS3 approach with a limited in device memory (<16GB is cheap) that allowed n number of PSN accounts and then utilize a normal SD card slot for memory expansion. This would have allowed them the security model (as that would be on the internal memory) as well as the extra storage needed for bigger media or simply more of it. I am sure they thought of this solution.

So it's exactly the same thing. You have different save files and run throughs on the same card. Here bro, (hands over Vita) just start a new game and save it in a different save slot. Done. Problem solved.

The only issue there should be with this is worrying about people writing over your save games accidentally. It is the same issue on DS.

I don't think your other examples jsutify your argument. So you can have multiple users on a pc. Why would you automatically assume this is standard? My droid doesn't have multiple users, fyi. My DS doesn't. You're taking things that are geared towards multiple users and comparing them to a handheld gaming device.You might as well mention how your bank account supports multiple users, or how a house has several rooms in the same overall space.

And actually, much of their security has to do with the memory beign tied to the system. Same thing goes for the ps3.
Additionally, sure, they could've done it in a way that was cheaper for the consumer, but what company does that, man? 360 had specialized hard drives that were WAYY more expensive than standard drives! Everything is specialized nowadays. That's the reality of the industry. The fact that Sony still gives as much as they do with the ps3 is perplexing. They are losing so much potential income. No proprietary hard drives. No proprietary USB charger. The 400$ slim had a regular power cord! Everything was boxed in. You could even share full versions of games with like unlimited people at one time!