Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Violence should only be met with violence? If that was the case then there would be no way to remove peaceful protestors, no matter where they are, be it blocking traffic, or a hospital or whatever.
Dragging the protestors from their illegal spaces afterall is inherently violent and can cause some pain and even possibe longterm damage. Which is what makes the pepperspray incidient even more confusing. Sure it hurts like a bitch, but the possible permament after affects are less likely or prevelent then what's used already.
Additionally, whether they intentionally block the way of the police due to theif, murderer, protestor or tax cheat... they are committing the same crime. Resisitng Arrest. (You can be charged with it by trying to prevent soemone elses arrest.)
Resisting Arrest is listed under Active Resistance.
Once they decided to try and block the arrests they technically weren't passive resisters anymore, but active ones. Regardless of not trying to physically attack anyone.
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I am speaking not in legal terms, but in moral ones in this case. Those who have the conviction to protest in a purely non-violent way should never be put down by nonviolent means, even if it is for the good of the society to remove said persons from the scene to restore normal working order in the short term
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So in otherwords, if protestors are blocking the streets to anywhere be it Denny's or a hospital. Nobody should force them to move.
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The other difference i have from your definition of things is that bodily removal is nonviolent, and then if they resist bodily removal, that is violence, so you're on a stronger platform to do what you need to remove them
By no means are we under moral obligation to concede to a nonviolent mob, but to do anything more than is needed to restore normal working order is going to be counterproductive and/or amoral
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Have you ever been removed while nonviolently protesting? Or moved someone who doesn't want to move but doesn't resisist?
It's far from non violent, it hurts like hell, and very often, even when done correctly can deal longterm damage. Espiecally if your flailing around like an idiot.
