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SamuelRSmith said:
richardhutnik said:

The basis of something being theft can't be because a majority voted for it.  What comes in the theft debate has to do with the nature and quality of life, based upon what societies must do to maintain things.  Societies can vote to have government do a number of things, like provide fire protection, police, infrastructure maintenance, medical coverage and so on, to prevent problems from arising and maintaing a degree of order and predictability that has people feel they can live and succeed.  These services need to get paid for, and can be either done voluntarily or by the use of government.  So, on the theft front, what do you call a society that doesn't pay for these services that are needed?  Is it possible for a society to rob from itself?


I don't really get your point. Is it that if a society votes for fire protection, but then isn't provided with it, then that is essentially theft from the society?

What do you call it if a society fails to do what is needed to perserve itself?  Or they end up going into deficit spending to do such, without raising sufficient tax revenue?

There is claims of taxation as being theft.  But what do you call someone who can pay for something that is needed, and benefits from it, but lives in a state that borrows to pay for it?