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SamuelRSmith said:
Mr Khan said:
SamuelRSmith said:
richardhutnik said:
Would it be preferable that government tax dollars go directly to charities if charities are superior for administering it, or just make it all voluntary and hope people give enough?

You can't be charitable with other people's money. As I have outlayed in this thread, if taxes were lower, fewer people would require charity, and more people would have enough money to be able to give to charity - sure, some won't, but I think most people have atleast one issue where they'd be willing to donate, especially if given a large enough disposable income.

At the end of the day, we all have a responsibility to give to charity, that is my view. However, that doesn't give me the right to steal your money and give that to charity, just because you won't if I don't.

This notion of theft only applies if the government has not made this decision as a result of the people's due will. If we, as a community, agree that such donations should be made, everyone should give their share, or give their share while they work to change that will, but abide by the system nevertheless

Now, forgive me if my comprehension is not up to scratch, here, but are you seriously arguing that it isn't theft if the majority have voted for it? Do you not care about rights at all?

People vote for all kinds of shit, especially with the right propaganda.

The basis of something being theft can't be because a majority voted for it.  What comes in the theft debate has to do with the nature and quality of life, based upon what societies must do to maintain things.  Societies can vote to have government do a number of things, like provide fire protection, police, infrastructure maintenance, medical coverage and so on, to prevent problems from arising and maintaing a degree of order and predictability that has people feel they can live and succeed.  These services need to get paid for, and can be either done voluntarily or by the use of government.  So, on the theft front, what do you call a society that doesn't pay for these services that are needed?  Is it possible for a society to rob from itself?