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osamanobama said:
lordmandeep said:
Jesus if you look at his messages would be considered a liberal in today's world.

About do all Human beings have the right to a house, a job, food and water.

Imo if people did not have to work to get such things, many in society would simply not work.
So the Govt had a big hand in causing the housing crisis as it wanted to give poor people mostly blacks and Latinos homes. Frankly, a lot of those people should have not gotten mortgages as they did not have enough income or steady income to support a household + mortgage.

actually Jesus wasnt very fond of government, as it was/is corrupt. and he often criticized polititians and especially tax collectors.

Jesus was very much for giving to the needy. the Key word is GIVING, not forcefully taking (stealing) of property and handing to another person.

Jesus wanted to people to give out of the goodness of their hearts, not because they had to or were forced to by government. involuntary giving, isnt giving at all, and completed defeats the purpose of what Jesus wanted us to do. 

What I do notice is there is a tendency by some to shift helping the poor from the poor to those who are giving, as if it is some sort of benchmark of virtue that they are awesome, rather than people in need being helped.  Not sure Jesus would approve of this shift.  Isn't the idea of helping people to help people, not have some sort of "I'm more virtuous than you, because I did more"?

What is the point of doing anything if people aren't helped?