Occupy Wall Street Protests not working? What do you think?

[Kasz216]

Mr Khan said:

Kasz216 said:

Final-Fan said:

austin2359 said:

Scientific (Marxist) revolution is the only solution.

You probably already know this, but for those who don't... Scientific Socialism is what Marx used to define his socialism from that which existed before him.

The revolution part seems redudnent though... since Marx argued utopian socialists focused there message at the rulers and not the proletriate in an attempt to convince them to change to their view based on the logic of their system and by running test communes to show such a society could work.

VS marx who wanted outright polticial revolution right away, expierments be damned.  Which always made "Scientific Socialism" seem pretty funny to me.   Though "Untested rushed socialism" doesn't really have the same ring to it.

No no no, Marx did not want revolution right away. Indeed Marx's personal role during the 1848 revolutions in Europe was telling working class individuals in the Rhineland that "now is not your time, now is the time of the Liberal Bourgeoisie. Help them now against the Junkers/aristocrats, and your time will come." He felt revolution needed to occur at the maturation of capitalism, which he realized after the 1848 revolutions was still a ways off, though he still looked to it in his lifetime at the time.

It was the Russian Michael Bakunin (as well as the Frenchman Louis Blanqui) who said "Revolution now and figure the rest out later." Lenin, in turn, believed less in the notion that capitalism needed to mature and more to the idea that the proletariat could ally itself with the peasantry (as was needed for any Russian revolution to be successful)

By right away, i mean without actual research or expeirmentation.

From the communist manifesto. "Hence, they reject all political, and especially all revolutionary, action; they wish to attain their ends by peaceful means, and endeavor, by small experiments, necessarily doomed to failure, and by the force of example, to pave the way for the new social Gospel.""