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kowenicki said:
Aldro said:
kowenicki said:
Reasonable said:
Snesboy said:
Aldro said:

Last gen, possibly.

This gen, no.

It belongs to Call of Duty 4 this generation.

Last gen, yes.

This gen, yes.

Without Halo, there would be no CoD4 because Xbox 1 would have crashed and burned.

You do know CoD launched before Xbox on PC and was already a successful FPS franchise?  Without Halo/Cod the only difference would have been CoD4 would have released on PC/PS3 only and in US/UK a lot of young male adults would have just had to save up for PCs.


it did/was ?

CoD, especially CoD2 was amazing.
CoD3 ..not so much.
CoD4 is when it became the go-to game for FPS (speaking sales!)


I kniow all of that, I have played every call of duty until the latest one...

I was disputing the fact that COD was an established franchise prior to Halo.  I thought Halo and COD started the same year.

EDIT: just saw what I think's causing the confusion.  When I wrote before Xbox I meant that CoD was big on PC before it grew on Xbox, not that it launched miles before Xbox.  So far as I know CoD hit just around or even just after Halo.

I was therefore pointing out that if Xbox had failed it wouldn't necessarily have prevented CoD4 or CoD at all surviving.  The franchise would no doubt have continued to grow on PC with Xbox or PS3 - because let's face it if Xbox had crashed and burned then titles like CoD would be on PC/PS3 they wouldn't just have vanished.

So my point was it's not a case of Halo leading to CoD and FPS domination on console so much as Halo being one of a number of successful FPS franchises that covered multiple platforms across PS2, Xbox, PC, etc.

I really like Halo but find too many people think it influenced everything else rather than understanding it was one of a number of franchises that in different ways defined the genre (Half Life and Counter Strike for example being another such franchise) although I do see Halo as having the most initial influence on how to design FPS for console/gamepad control.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...