Mr Khan said:
Seece said:
Mr Khan said:
Seece said:
kitler53 said:
and i'm telling you that's not true. this isn't a money issue, he makes plenty. i've said it before but maybe you didn't see it...i'm quite well off as is really all of my friends. when i say well off i specifically mean household incomes of $100k to $300k -- i'd hope you'd agree that's plenty enough to buy a couple of games/movies/songs a year.
and yet across all my friends only two households don't pirate; myself because i have a huge stick up my ass on the subject and one other who is a lawyer and says he's too afraid to loose his job/career. all of the rest pirate their media and that makes me sad and angry. the problem is that it's just too easy to do, there is almost no risk of getting caught, and they get free shit out of it.
what i'm telling you is that as long as they feel they can get away with it they won't change no matter what business model content developers create. seriously, they pirate free content just because they don't like watching commercials. promise you though, if they had to...they'd pay.
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No kilter, mr Kahn knows your friends better than you and every other pirate, you're WRONG.
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Everyone in both threads is coming at me with all kinds of anecdotal evidence, and their only refutation is that i cannot refute their anecdotal evidence.
I shall make an examination into this. Surely there has to be scholarly data in the economics discipline to support this and either shut me up, or shut the rest of you up.
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Difference is we're refuting what you're saying. We're not saying this goes for everyone (I already said that) just that you simply can't tell either way what people will do when they can't pirate. Wheras you and that other guy seem adamant it's not going to change anything without any proof.
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Prevailing trends defy anecdotal evidence without making it untrue. Take for instance the countless "My Wii is gathering dust," statements put forth across the generation that, while they might have been true for the individuals, were not true on the whole.
I'll grant that i have only been going off of prevailing wisdom i have heard in discussions involving those whose economics knowledge i trust. Therefore i shall table further arguments until studies can be cited
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i don't think you're going to find much in terms of legit studies, everything i've seen is highly highly biased. so just look at this fact:
the cost of music has stayed roughly level over the years while the revenues have been cut in half since the introduction of napster in 1999. so i'll leave it to you to infer ... over the last ten years has half the population decided to no longer consume music or is half the population just no longer paying?
..i think it's the latter. you just can't compete with free.
"Now just 44% of U.S. Internet users and 64% of Americans who buy digital music think that that music is worth paying for, according to Forrester. The volume of unauthorized downloads continues to represent about 90% of the market, according to online download tracker BigChampagne Media Measurement."
