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Mr Puggsly said:
dahuman said:

I'm playing BF3 on PC, and it's the same shit, I can kill people with 3 or less bullets without them ever being able to do anything, modern FPS that has console counter parts in MP is generally not about skill but on who's not looking at you with 1s deaths, to that point, at least Halo is still somewhat respectable on that front as to most other console shooters. Dumbed down as in the general speed is super slow and the whole competition aspect is shot to shit due to the way they generally work these days. There is a reason why Halo is the only respectable competition FPS on console with the way they balanced the game, unless somebody gets a sniper rifle anyways. The only N64 shooter I played was Golden Eye, it always came down to the sniper rifle, mines, and oddjob, it was a fun party game, but it was never at the level of Quake back in the days.

I say this again like I have in other threads, try to sign up for Tribes Ascend beta, play that shit, see how well you can do on that game now that you are so pro console FPS, that will be your scale on skill based shooter. Not to mention the maps are much bigger. I have no issue with consoles when it comes to other genres, it just won't be my 1st choice when it comes to FPS or FPS game design for as long as there is PC gaming.

I have no problem with playing military shooters since my friends play them, I'm also usually on the winning team, shit's just not that challenging and I tend to fade out much faster due to boredom after 1-3 months.

Why are you playing BF3? If that's not the kind of FPS you enjoy, find something more your style. I didn't enjoy it either, but I don't consider it bad.

So dumbed down to you means they run slow? I don't consider that dumbed down at all.

Halo is great, but I've heard CoD fans say its slow. Or as you would call it, "dumbed down."

Goldeneye N64 is a lot more similar to modern games than Quake.

1-3 months of entertainment sounds pretty good to me. As I've gotten older I just don't stick to a game, I'm always looking to start a new game. I don't know what your story is.

Like I said, already fading away lol, it's been a week since I last played a match, I like it, but it's so much luck based and the net code actually reward people with high ping lol.

Running slow is a control issue, they are forced to design FPS games that way these days since Halo happened because Halo did it right on consoles, but that in term changed dev design choices to where snipers are too good on a mouse setup and nobody bothered to think about how FPS'd play on faster and more accurate controls. CoD's problem comes in the auto-aim aspect of the game where the bullets would literally curve to hit shit on consoles, it's really a non-resolvable issue when it comes to dual analog FPS game design.

Yep, that's why Golden Eye was a party game for me, it was fun with friends over because there are a lot of assists for my buddies that used to not play FPS a lot, but these days, things are conducted online, the last fun I really had on a console FPS online was Halo 3 with Gravity Hammer matches and that was bat shit fun as hell, I haven't gotten that same feeling on a console style FPS MP since that............ look at what we've had in the past few years, not that FPS has changed dramatically but I've never felt like I'm playing the same shit over and over as much as I have.

hehe, I'm hoping you've played Counter-Strike or Team Fortress (original mod on Quake or new on Source, don't matter,) those were definitely not 1-3 months games, it's like people don't know how to make things fun for me anymore, but money talks, consoles make more, nothing I can do about it ^^;;; I just hope more games will be built for e-sports since I seem to enjoy those style of games more.